kontextmaschine

kontextmaschine:

Ah, that erotic audio creator I liked has returned and with new content.

Yeah, anonelin specializes in fantasies where guy friends rape her and she’s really good

yeah, yeah, we all want each other to force us

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This is how it happens. I’ve been saying for a while that the next turn involves a revalorization of inegalitarian sexuality, this is part of it coming together.

The ‘90s Clintonian Silver Age was about taking a pause to reenchant American normalcy by #including the 60s… and it took. Standing up for post-counterculture cultural norms is now authentic American conservatism.

At the same time, the '80s had intervened. You had the cultural backlash, “family values” reassertion of child-protectiveness, you saw the Supreme Court invent the idea of “child pornography” as a category their last decades didn’t leave constitutionally protected, also the “campus rape crisis”, Take Back The Night, the broader almost proto-2010s original “political correctness” culture and canon wars PCU riffed on.

And in reaction to that, as a threat environment to be navigated if not particularly a change of heart to be internalized, the '90s didn’t push the presumed-sexual-access-to-inferiors line. Maybe even postured against it, y'know, Ben Affleck in Mallrats, who’s trying to fuck the girlfriend in a very painful place that’s not the back seat of a Volkswagen, would-totally-fuck-high-schoolers bad guy of the first movie where Kevin Smith was working for Harvey Weinstein from jump…

And yes, Weinstein and Hollywood, #MeToo, Epstein and the national elite, hell, Clinton and intern Monica Lewinsky, remember that one?, it appears that if the Boomers with a shot gave up on trumpeting it they didn’t on doing it…

How much of “nice guys”, “MRAs”, was about about guys noticing the gap here? “The world you are to inherit is in the rock-and-roll tradition of Woodstock thru '80s keg parties, the men who don’t go into domestic seclusion have a steady stream of satisfying partners, and all of this comes through a vernacular popularization of second-wave feminism!” Okay, but the last doesn’t really produce the prior.

(“Woodstock '99 was a rape fest!” well okay '94 seemed better, but by modern standards how much enthusiastic consent really was there in the mud of '69?)

Gone Girl I keep coming back to, but the book was really about the gap, about it collapsing on men in a way that was, if extreme in its particulars, rooted in the way it largely would in the 2010s.

But the thing is, “oh no these cads publicly mouthed feminist support while sexbezzling in private, now that that support has pumped feminism up enough they’re no longer safe!” has a parallel waiting, among the people who grew up with 90s culture. “Oh no feminism mouthed pro-sex Sixtiesism while building towards Puritanism in private! But now that we’ve been pumped up for counterculture sex-positivity… ::cracks knuckles::”

Like, what, they wouldn’t? Go read those responses OP referenced.

Add that to the way yammering about pedos and grooming marks you for avoiding by anyone worthwhile as a chud or at least anti now…

Also add the back-to-the-city thing. '80s teens-and-malls “suburbs” were really like, the San Fernando Valley, or Long Island, or relatively close-in Chicagoland. Now, in the parent-chauffeured exurbs the few outside adults an adolescent might get involved with are like, “sports coach” and “youth pastor” so I’m not sure exactly how a return to unsupervised intergenerational mixing would affect things, but it’s a change.

kontextmaschine:

if the last decade means AO3 replaces the ACLU in the pantheon of worthies fine

Is kind of amusing the extent to which “women are horny and want to fuck” is turning out to be the saving grace of the internet. No Girls indeed.

duran-duran-less-official:

kontextmaschine:

Appreciate how 4chan is like a think tank of ‘90s culture, proffering their own approaches to the sexual issues of the zeitgeist

Like before “trans girls” got big in the 2010s they had “traps”. Who fulfilled the female criteria of being hot and consumable. “Traps aren’t gay” (to be attracted to as a man) was, after all, a claim that these chicks-with-docks were not, in fact, men.

And what is all the femdom (incl. monster girls) but a response to the complaint that men are personally predatory to women and use them for sex in the workplace not by attempting to suppress this but by spinning up cultural valences, idioms, and norm for women to be too?

Can anyone really manufacture sexual desires as a response to something? Surely it’s more that such people go where the stereotypes about predatory masculine sexuality do not?

LGBT subculture didn’t develop as a response to societally enforced heterosexual norms, it developed because LGBT people were already there in spite of those norms and needed a place to express their sexuality where people from society at large wouldn’t judge them.

In the 19th century handkerchief fetishes were a thing, now they’re not. I have to believe that’s because handkerchieves were a thing then. They’re similarly trying to make these things now.

I’ve seen a few girls in r/gonewildaudio, which is basically amateur radio drama sexual fantasies for you to masturbate to, going to “slime girl” and succubus idioms. Which like, it’s not cause they think guys are going to like slime girl transparency in audio, it’s because slime girls are a thing in their head now. Presumably then, so to a degree is “businessgyaru who uses the new guy”

All the “Puriteen” thing and attempts to stretch youth taboos to the point of absurdity just reflects an unmet demand in that we’re still where the 70s were with The Pill, the last vestiges of Christian sexual morality died out by the mid-2000s, and AIDS seems safely behind us, young people don’t have any more publicly legible reason not to be fuckpuppets all the time anymore

I’ve barely ever seen any kink at pride discourse and none this year but I see more and more kink at pride discourse discourse every year

Which honestly might have to do with a Gen Z split between the ones who understand the internet as a space for fulfilling sexual expression and the ones who see it as a space of predatory sexual consumption?

And particularly how that got transplanted with the tumblr–>Twitter diaspora to a culture that hadn’t coevolved with it and, where dominant figures considered themselves the unquestioned vanguard of a Boomer->X->Millennial progression

Obviously it peaks yearly but this year I think some of it might stick around, people are doing numbers and getting attention with stuff and it’s now one of the topics in the hopper, generalists need to at least show awareness of it, and you’d already seen people taking potshots at “Puriteens” ramping up for a bit

People you’d seen before, even as culture scolds, who had Twitter-honed instincts not to even try to argue them out of it or point out the weakness of their position but to mock them, and render them as a mockable outgroup (mocking then becoming an ingroup credential which gets bid up, encouraging apparent preference cascades), coding their characteristic positioning and affiliations

Which, even setting aside how they’re transferring worn-out “incel” hate to volcels, to watch the engine ramp up on like, overusing the language of consent to be a buzzkill around the place of adolescents in adult sexuality is a sign it’s really not the 2010s anymore

argumate:

kontextmaschine:

So, the other day I finally saw “rapebaiting” show up outside of Reddit, by a girl assuming people would know what she was talking about

(on Whisper, which is like a churning feed of text-on-images with the weird local anonymity of Craigslist, it’s a good look at the collective semiconscious)

Like thinking of it as “the infohazard” was before the personality change cut my anxiety and I just can’t get that worked up now

But like, if this cracks mainstream awareness – that some share of the girls out there ARE, in fact, dressing like that, acting like that, leading you on, as part of an attempt to tempt you into forcing yourself on them, which they would very much appreciate – I could see it affecting things.

It would resonate with other trends! The “re-enchantment of heterosexuality” thing, using sharp power gradients between arm’s-length roles to address psychological issues through sex. The thing where in fanfic and all sort of user-created “sexual media”, women are letting on that a lot of their sexual fantasies are actually pretty dark. The exhaustion of the “consent culture” we were building since the Tori Amos 90s when we were pushing “Acquaintance” and “Date Rape” alongside dark-alley/outta-the-bushes (surely not helped by the internet-enabled realization that huge swaths of the culture were never really trying to put it into practice).

Honestly if you go back and pay attention to Madonna narrating ‘80s sexual culture, as it reflexes from the '70s, you pick up similar vibes. Paglia was picking up on some real shit.

But like let’s not beat around the bush here, the effect I’d expect it to have would be a more positive re-evaluation of, well, rape, at least an undermining of whatever messages premised on the certainty that they are not, in fact, asking for it

Like, if consent as our lodestar isn’t leading where people want to go they’re going to replace it

I dunno! Maybe it wouldn’t be as male-on-female as that. With femdom, monster girl, pegging, yandere stuff (, whatever the fuck “femboy” is doing as “being a passive, pleasing partner is a feminine role that’s open to straight boys too!”) you see there’s clearly some interest running the other way, Barstool’s “Meet The Newest Sex Scandal Teacher” a reminder that “female sex offenders are hot” is a pretty mainstream take. This was honestly a lot of the potential Paglia saw in Madonna. (Though honestly, I’d predict F/m riffs to show up first in predatory-tinted creampie/impreg stuff)

okay I’m somewhat sceptical of this entire concept but I mostly wanted to point out that you’re conflating two varieties of nonconsent here: things people actually don’t want and things people do want but don’t want to admit to wanting; these can appear superficially similar from the outside at times but are obviously very different experiences!

while there are people who might fantasise about being jumped by a gorilla or what have you I think that’s always going to remain a niche thing given that the entire point is that it’s a taboo, it’s wrong, it’s eroticising something that isn’t supposed to normally happen, and fantasy is a safe place to experience it without doing it for real.

the other kind of nonconsent is getting “swept off your feet” Hollywood-style, by the right person in the right way, so you get exactly what you want without having to ask for it, because this scenario is implicitly consensual it’s just not conveyed by saying “yes you can kiss me now” because many people don’t find that sexy and are reluctant to verbalise their own desires, as well as of course having to ask means having to risk rejection and everybody hates the possibility rejection, even (especially?) in fantasies.

popular media is absolutely full of this shit and always has been! but this is still a consensual interaction; even if for dramatic purposes the consent is sometimes presented somewhat retroactively, at no point is it ever implied that something wrong or unwanted is happening, they’ve just communicated consent via ineffable quantum means that are sadly unavailable in the real world.

just saying there’s a big gap between “people want to passively receive the object of their dreams without needing to verbalise it” and “people want to be raped”.

Yeah, “ravishing” is the way it’s usually put, when you really want it. All those bodice-ripper heroines were being ravished by the pirate captain.

But I think in the last generation as we’ve tried to even out a power-assymetric male-as-predator script for heterosexuality and tried on ideas of affirmative consent, we’ve lost sight of ravishment, the needs it served are going underfulfilled, and some of this swing is in reaction to that.

There’s other variants – “free use” as a broad idiom, ideas of tattoos or anklets to indicate practitioners, that kind of evokes how the Goreans and the S&M set were using collars as a signifier in the 80s. To mark themselves off for distinct treatment it’s understood would be improper to treat any random off the street.

The r/rapekink subreddit where a lot of this came from has a lot of overlap with r/StupidSlutsClub, which holds the “Mall Challenge” in a similar position (basically, go to a mall, find strangers to go up to and offer yourself to for use in the mall), clearly for a lot of people this matter-of-fact consent is an alternate way to address the same desires.

Then there’s the whole “CNC” thing – “consensual nonconsent”, basically prenegotiated rape roleplay.

But that’s part of why I’m concerned specifically that the “baiting” form might take on more weight here, because while any practitioner might be in it to get ravished, it draws a lot of charge from violating – and, ultimately, weakening – strictures built up against rape, right when an attempt to leverage so much sexual culture out from consent is starting to creak.

So, the other day I finally saw “rapebaiting” show up outside of Reddit, by a girl assuming people would know what she was talking about

(on Whisper, which is like a churning feed of text-on-images with the weird local anonymity of Craigslist, it’s a good look at the collective semiconscious)

Like thinking of it as “the infohazard” was before the personality change cut my anxiety and I just can’t get that worked up now

But like, if this cracks mainstream awareness – that some share of the girls out there ARE, in fact, dressing like that, acting like that, leading you on, as part of an attempt to tempt you into forcing yourself on them, which they would very much appreciate – I could see it affecting things.

It would resonate with other trends! The “re-enchantment of heterosexuality” thing, using sharp power gradients between arm’s-length roles to address psychological issues through sex. The thing where in fanfic and all sort of user-created “sexual media”, women are letting on that a lot of their sexual fantasies are actually pretty dark. The exhaustion of the “consent culture” we were building since the Tori Amos 90s when we were pushing “Acquaintance” and “Date Rape” alongside dark-alley/outta-the-bushes (surely not helped by the internet-enabled realization that huge swaths of the culture were never really trying to put it into practice).

Honestly if you go back and pay attention to Madonna narrating ‘80s sexual culture, as it reflexes from the '70s, you pick up similar vibes. Paglia was picking up on some real shit.

But like let’s not beat around the bush here, the effect I’d expect it to have would be a more positive re-evaluation of, well, rape, at least an undermining of whatever messages premised on the certainty that they are not, in fact, asking for it

Like, if consent as our lodestar isn’t leading where people want to go they’re going to replace it

I dunno! Maybe it wouldn’t be as male-on-female as that. With femdom, monster girl, pegging, yandere stuff (, whatever the fuck “femboy” is doing as “being a passive, pleasing partner is a feminine role that’s open to straight boys too!”) you see there’s clearly some interest running the other way, Barstool’s “Meet The Newest Sex Scandal Teacher” a reminder that “female sex offenders are hot” is a pretty mainstream take. This was honestly a lot of the potential Paglia saw in Madonna. (Though honestly, I’d predict F/m riffs to show up first in predatory-tinted creampie/impreg stuff)

quoms:

everything i hear about jessica krug’s behavior sounds like an honest to god minstrel act. an absurd caricature of black and/or latina identity performed, one might almost imagine, for an audience of white people who inhabit a racially segregated environment

i know it’s easy to sit back and say ‘i wouldn’t have been fooled’ but jessica la bombalera? come on

Girl With Public Humiliation Thing Tries Raceplay

polyaletheia:

kontextmaschine:

Exactly where did the h-manga “stuck in wall” trope get translated and manifest as the Anglophone memesexual “stuck in washing machine”?

I think Japanese washing machines are either smaller or top-loading, so there’s that.

No, in the meme version it’s a front-loader and she’s on her hands and knees (which distinguishes it from the “Instructions Unclear” human-in-top-loader meme). It’s also frequently rendered as “my stepsister stuck in a washing machine”, showing the influence of American pornographic tropes.

“Guys be sending dick pics”, bitch as if between Omegle, Snapchat, and Reddit we can still pretend “welp I’m bored, time to get on the internet and show strangers my genitals” is a male-specific thing