shrine to a dude, who even knows

Cable television was perfect and we ruined it

This frames itself as “there’s so much good stuff I should waaatch! I miss vegging out on crap because it was what’s on!”

And that’s not wrong per se, but I’m thinking beyond that to the effect on the whole-culture that we shared this pre-internet experience in common, of taking in media that was not very optimized for us because it was around, and consequently having a lot of cultural background we were very lightly invested in, in common with the rest of the country, and that enabled us to build increasing elaborations on the culture while maintaining coherence

Like, there might have been a lot of webcomics, but honestly, there were a lot of newspaper comics. Like, on any given day I might read 18 of them cause they were just there. And we’d have that in common, like, not just the good stuff like Calvin and Hobbes and The Far Side, we’d all recognize the Family Circus dotted-line meandering travel paths. And so someone could reference that and we’d all be like “ahh”. Or Dennis the Menace’s slingshot. That Liz Lemon “chocolate, chocolate, chocolate! ACK” cutaway works because everyone, including people who didn’t or still don’t care about the experience of unmarried single women approaching middle age, would have read enough Cathy to instantly place the reference and further, to process the twist, that yeah, it was awfully mannered and ritualized for a “relatable” comic. Garfield without Garfield works because we’ve all seen it with Garfield.

Part of your contemporary social/identity/representation/ownership fights is just rehashing the 80s “Canon Wars”. What is authentic American culture, these works long held up for praise but dismissible as product of an old order and old demographics? These new works by and about the non-dominant that don’t even try and engage with the first tradition?

And that never resolved so much in either direction as all High Culture was deprecated in favor of a new American Canon of Pop Culture. One that could skip normative questions of merit entirely by being a descriptive canon of what the masscult Broadcast Era left us.

Like, The Brady Bunch wasn’t in the canon because it was smart, or well-acted, or well-shot, or had something interesting to say about society in the period where blended families and domestic servants were each at the edges of “normal”. (If it was that, lesser Norman Lear like Maude would be). No, the Brady Bunch was in the canon because it was ubiquitous. Everyone had seen it at some point, if you were Generation X there was a good chance you had seen any given episode at some point.

And this still represented a diversification. This new canon had a lot more “white ethnic” and particularly Jewish pillars, and blacks certainly had more pride of place in 20th century “pop” than “high” culture.

(This leaves Jazz and Blues in the interesting position of having been significantly intellectualized to “fit” the old High Culture paradigm before the new one came in, leaving them somewhat overlooked)

And with this stuff established as the New Authentic America you could appeal to it. With Rock as the National Genre, not just kids’ stuff, you could say that thru Blues and Motown the culture owed black artists more respect. (Where no one really thinks of contemporary American pop as Swedish-indebted).

Feminist and queer scholars pored over Hollywood camp, subtext, old “Pre-Code” work aiming to prove that gender variance and homosexual desire had always been an authentic part of American culture.

(I def. remember on multiple occasions apropos of I forget what the tale of “Fatty” Arbuckle trotted out as a moral condemnation and warning of the unscrupulous young women and tabloid press that for money and attention would peddle baseless rape accusations to a public of vulgar moralists, which today hm)

And past those knock-on effects on social health, the cultural output itself was great. I think that’s the defining factor of Long 90s culture, not only that it built off a shared canon but its creators and audiences recognized it as working from a shared background with traits and forms that could be played with, the meta-awareness of it all.

Xena: Warrior Princess, a syndicated swords-and-sandals actioneer spin-off attracting an ecology of academic conferences and journals by mashing up all of ancient mythology, Mediterranean history, and knowing Hollywood encoded/subtextual queerness.

Kevin Williamson deconstructing and rebuiding the slasher genre with the Scream series. And then, honestly, doing the same with the teen relationship drama with Dawson’s Creek, where the principals were always talking through what their character developments meant, seeing them through a cinematic lens in heavily referential dialogue

Joss Whedon and Rob Thomas (of Veronica Mars) wielding their audience’s genre-savviness against them, setting up scenarios that would “have” to end some predictable way that resolved everything by the conventions of five-act episodic TV with recurring stars and plotlines, and then just not.

In comics hitting earlier in the 80s, Crisis on Infinite Earths as a recognition at the core of the capes-and-powers mainstream that these disposable entertainments had congealed into mythology, proceeding by in-metaverse acknowledgement of extranarrative structure.

In more far-out stuff Morrison, Moore, Gaiman, and Miller going meta as hell, all “what if comics were myths, what if comics were real, what if reality was comics, what if reality was myth.” DKR as “if Batman was real, he’d be pretty fucked up”. Watchmen as “if Golden/Silver/Bronze ages were real, superheroes would be just as fucked up and unmoored by the 80s as we all are”. Sandman was “what if every human story and mythology was part of the same meta shared universe”

Even Star Trek:TNG was an attempt to realize the coherent universe that the fandom had mostly projected onto an original series that were really a stock cast and setting adaptable to filming any SF short story of the week. (Lurking in the background is the 70s-80s realization from Star Wars that coherent universes increase audience stickiness, and are a well you can go back to)

Then Ron Moore took his project of trying to give Star Trek coherence and weight to an even less respectable space opera reboot, and made the fact of an IP-driven rehash (“all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again”) a load-bearing religious theme of eternal recurrence.

Family Guy, the conceit of half the jokes was they invoked 70s-80s pop culture just the right amount of obscure so you constantly surprised yourself that you even knew enough to get them.

SeaLab 2021 repurposing a piece of establishment futurism to underscore how absurd the concept seemed by then despite how nostalgic the aesthetic was, Venture Brothers pastiching postwar boys’ adventure fantasies to highlight their complete disconnect from any actual process of becoming a man.

I miss that, you know. That overlapped/kept going with the Early Internet, so I thought it would continue through and we’d just keep building on it.

I guess that’s what really sticks in the craw re: “cancel culture”, millennial insouciance, wevs. The blithe dismissal of a rich, elaborated, mutually supportive canon with nothing to replace it.

Also realizing you’re now the kind of person to levy that critique at The Youngs, I guess that sticks too.

I dunno, maybe that was because the Early Internet was full of people who got acculturated pre-Internet and carried that with.

Maybe it’s cause I’m not getting particularly acculturated anymore - I accept Pokémon and Spongebob memes and reaction images in their own right, maybe if I saw the underlying properties - or whatever comes after - I’d appreciate them more.

Maybe that shared culture was an artifact of suburban retrenchment and then the Early Internet narrowing the cultural/economic/political American subject to a narrow white UMC and adjacent band and allowing a generation of us to mistake ourselves for America entire

Maybe it was product of a bottlenecking that was still negative on net. Like, basic cable had more channels than the plain 3 network broadcast era, but in 1950 they were competing with like, the bowling league, the pool hall, the Elks club, the Masons, the ladies’ charity, the socialist meeting, the dinner show club, the Mafia nightclub, the gay Mafia nightclub, any of the 4 bars between your work and home, the “whatever’s playing this week” double-feature movie theater…

(And even then, more diversity between examples. If you started going to shows in like “the Washington punk scene” in 1989, that was probably a lot of hardcore if you meant “comma, D.C.” and twee and proto-grunge if you meant “Olympia, comma”)

I dunno. Still, I miss it.

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A funny thing about the 90s is it would tell you allll about how Reefer Madness (1936) was part of this absurd, melodramatic...

A funny thing about the 90s is it would tell you allll about how Reefer Madness (1936) was part of this absurd, melodramatic tradition of innocents violating bourgeois norms in pursuit of pleasure and coming to (sexualized, racialized a/o mutilatory) ruin

And then just not at all notice that Kids (1995) and Requiem For a Dream (2000) were playing with this exact tradition for their own ends

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the realization that whoever wrote "must have been relieved to see the softer side" into Meredith Brooks' 1997 Bitch must have...

the realization that whoever wrote “must have been relieved to see the softer side” into Meredith Brooks’ 1997 Bitch must have been at least aware of the contemporary “come see the softer side of Sears” TV ad campaign

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Did anyone else read the Clerks comics? Where they play out the funeral scene that was left as a lacuna in the movie (The dead...

Did anyone else read the Clerks comics?

Where they play out the funeral scene that was left as a lacuna in the movie

(The dead girl is in her coffin in a tube top and sexy jeans, which honestly don’t underestimate 90s New Jersey, Randall drops his keys on her that slide into her pants and has to fish around in there but gets interrupted and knocks over the coffin entirely)

Also the follow-up bit where Dante visits that ex from the movie who fucked the dead guy in the bathroom, and now she’s catatonic in an asylum and he tries to break it by banging her with a candy cane? (That one was a holiday special)

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Me watching Trainspotting in the bar the other night:

Me watching Trainspotting in the bar the other night:

Oh yeah I remember when he hooks up with a girl and it turns out she’s a private schoolgirl with the uniform

That was a laff, like when Begbie goes to the rave and hooks up in that tiny euro-car and is like “whaat? a dick?”

Anyways my previous context of Scotland was Shirley Manson talking about dropping out at 15 to be a shopgirl and fuck her boss and shit in her boyfriend’s corn flakes sooo…

Oh, huh, I forgot the part where she comes back to smoke his hash and be his MPDG actualizing him into a fucking real estate agent

OHHH, but the part where she says Sick Boy was waiting at her school gates to give her a job and she clocked him she means he was a pimp

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Heard Jewel again for the third time this month, she really does do that yodeling thing well with her singing where it doesn't...

Heard Jewel again for the third time this month, she really does do that yodeling thing well with her singing where it doesn’t sound like Mariah Carey vibrato but just like a particularly thick voice

Also Sheryl Crow, and yeah, she really sounds like a generic boho-bobo LA singer/songwriter from the Melrose Place days who got picked up cause the label guys wanted to get with her. (The “Tuesday Night Music Club” was the weekly showcase she was scouted at.) Feh, there was room for one of that girl, and if it didn’t have to be her, she did a perfectly fine job of it.

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Remember when the Cold War ended and Star Trek series had to figure out what to do with their setting and then for a series...

Remember when the Cold War ended and Star Trek series had to figure out what to do with their setting and then for a series pretended that “the R2P global cop knitting together the bloody borderlands” was actually a meaningful substitute?

Voyager was kind of that too, the Maquis/Federation mixed crew was kind of riffing off the Irish and South African peaces, but then they used that to tell “explorer in the savage land” stories even more primal to American colonialism than TOS’ “Wagon Train to the Stars”.

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watching Sex in the City and honestly just struck by how different the bust profiles in style were

kontextmaschine:

watching Sex in the City and honestly just struck by how different the bust profiles in style were

also and I suppose this is the premise, everyone looks like a decade too old for their outfits

Tagged: 90s90s90s long 90s

25 years of ads peeled away

saint-boss:

mardakaisson:

hooligan-nova:

violentbaudelaire:

25 years of ads peeled away

A warning

tomorrow

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thinking about Touched by an Angel I remember I used to watch that as a kid with my parents, which is kinda weird looking back,...

kontextmaschine:

thinking about Touched by an Angel

I remember I used to watch that as a kid with my parents, which is kinda weird looking back, with a Catholic-as-in-nationality dad and a Protestant-less-as-Christian-than-not-Catholic mom.

I remember Walker, Texas Ranger too but not so much Dr. Quinn. And Sears commercials.

Anyway, once in LA I went to a Koch-funded libertarian screenwriting seminar because of course I did, and one of the speakers was I believe Valerie Woods

who was a heavyset New Agey black woman, and as I heard her speak was like “omg, this is how they firmed up the voice of Tess”, Monica’s supervisor

that show was pretty Christian and post-Christian at the same time in a way that was really 90s, remember Andrew, the ambiguously gay Angel of Death?

Remember the devil version of Monica? Monique? Also played by Roma Downey?

Remember how she actually showed up the same week (Feb 21-23, 1999) as “Vamp Willow” in BTVS Doppelgangland and there was just something in the water like “oh let’s do the hot predatory evil version of our nice redhead girl this week”

Oh wow it was filmed in Salt Lake City? Of course it was!

It was an angel procedural, honestly looking back that’s amazing

And Tess and Monica were coded as a nursing shift, that’s cute

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thinking about Touched by an Angel I remember I used to watch that as a kid with my parents, which is kinda weird looking back,...

thinking about Touched by an Angel

I remember I used to watch that as a kid with my parents, which is kinda weird looking back, with a Catholic-as-in-nationality dad and a Protestant-less-as-Christian-than-not-Catholic mom.

I remember Walker, Texas Ranger too but not so much Dr. Quinn. And Sears commercials.

Anyway, once in LA I went to a Koch-funded libertarian screenwriting seminar because of course I did, and one of the speakers was I believe Valerie Woods

who was a heavyset New Agey black woman, and as I heard her speak was like “omg, this is how they firmed up the voice of Tess”, Monica’s supervisor

that show was pretty Christian and post-Christian at the same time in a way that was really 90s, remember Andrew, the ambiguously gay Angel of Death?

Remember the devil version of Monica? Monique? Also played by Roma Downey?

Remember how she actually showed up the same week (Feb 21-23, 1999) as “Vamp Willow” in BTVS Doppelgangland and there was just something in the water like “oh let’s do the hot predatory evil version of our nice redhead girl this week”

Oh wow it was filmed in Salt Lake City? Of course it was!

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thank god we’re not living in the ‘90s and engaging in interminable debates

argumate:

outofcontextargumate:

thank god we’re not living in the ‘90s and engaging in interminable debates

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Remember Dharma and Greg? The story about how the new millennium (90s pretending to be 00s) would be born from the (literal)...

talkinggorillabutler asked:

Remember Dharma and Greg? The story about how the new millennium (90s pretending to be 00s) would be born from the (literal) union of old money wasps and boomer jews, from the union of the counterculture hippies (70s pretending to be 60s) and the money loving yuppies (80s pretending to be 50s).

oh the fag hag show!

more than Sex In The City, which was fags projecting their promiscuous fun onto hags

which was the basis of the “fag hag” thing anyway!

that said I know it was important, maybe less than Ellen with the Puppy Episode but still

but for all that I file it in the same mental cabinet as Mad About You and Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place

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The '80s nostalgia has hung on for a weirdly long time if you look at the typical generational nostalgia cycle. That '70s Show...

quoms:

The ‘80s nostalgia has hung on for a weirdly long time if you look at the typical generational nostalgia cycle. That '70s Show ran '98-2006, capturing a 25-34 demo pining for a time they narrowly missed out on experiencing firsthand - that tracks, but then why was the '80s wave cresting new heights a decade later, with the release of season 1 of Stranger Things, instead of petering out? (As era-defining as that show has come to be, it’s hardly era-delimiting; it rode the tail end of the trend.)

You could chalk it up to those indelible '80s aesthetics, both in music and cinema. It’s not just that it’s quality entertainment - the marketing success of a product is often determined by the strength of its brand, and the reactionary atmosphere of the '80s produced a remarkably homogeneous body of work, one that with its easy recognisability and replicability in effect comes pre-branded. (The '70s, in contrast, defined by their excess, can be harder to present in a digestible package.) You could also blame it on a subconscious desire, even among liberal Netflix-watchers, for the comfort of reaction itself - “Morning Again in America” again, another Reagan landslide.

But in a sense what I’m more interested in is this: why did we skip over the '90s? I’ve already alluded to the '70s wave, which also includes Pulp Fiction; '60s nostalgia is such a thing that it’s become its own established part of American culture; '50s nostalgia in the '70s gave us Happy Days, and so on. Yet the returning trends in fashion aren’t 1995, they’re 2003. '99, '98 at the earliest, if The Matrix and the “No Scrubs” video are given their proper due as seminal works. Most of the decade - grunge, anyone? College radio alt-rock? - got entirely skipped over; the early-'90s nostalgia wave pretty much starts and ends with that one Cardi B and Bruno Mars video. It never went anywhere.

Kind of tempting to chalk it up to “no one wants the '90s back” but these aren’t hard and fast patterns and there are definitely other factors in play. At the same time, it sure seems like no one wants the fucking '90s back.

Remember how a thing about Dawson’s Creek (by Kevin Williamson, the Scream guy) is not only did they all speak quick and thesaurusily like 90s hip movie dialogue*, but that Dawson Leery wanted to be a film director and his personal icon was Steven Spielberg specifically because he reunited the post-60s culture by inventing the tentpole blockbuster about being an 80s kid whose parents didn’t stick together?

* see also Gilmore Girls, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Veronica Mars. Huh, I only now notice how female-marked those are. I was more female-marked at the time.

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"It is no surprise that the dominant perception of space, marked by discourses of property and nationality, continue to hold...

best-blurst-of-times:

“It is no surprise that the dominant perception of space, marked by discourses of property and nationality, continue to hold sway even among those who seek to transform it. But, as Benjamin put it, when the old temporality is interrupted in a fundamental way, this perception will also be interrupted, by a ‘historical time-lapse camera’ – a new image of time that will reorient our perception of space. This is especially important, since for individuals time is marked by a succession of affective attachments that overgird one another in ever deepening layers over the course of a lifespan. Those who mobilized or were swept up by the movements of the late 1960s, for instance, necessarily experience subsequent events differently from those who came of age in the late 1990s.”

https://www.radicalphilosophy.com/commentary/occupy-time

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do you have an instinct to resolve questions about the observer pool you were sampled from (“why me, why here?”) ahead of...

Anonymous asked:

do you have an instinct to resolve questions about the observer pool you were sampled from (“why me, why here?”) ahead of resolving object-level questions? seems kinda similar to the deep pattern-seeking/connection-making things, or at least is also a way a mind can unfocus, and I’m trying to gauge how common it is.

I grew up attuned to ‘90s moral relativism such that object-level questions are understood as questions about my peer group

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I saw Annihilation on Netflix, and could someone please reassure me that Natalie Portman isn’t as stressed and on edge in real...

argumate:

I saw Annihilation on Netflix, and could someone please reassure me that Natalie Portman isn’t as stressed and on edge in real life as all the characters I’ve seen her play in movies.

Don’t watch the trailer because it gives away most of the plot.

Don’t watch it if you’re squeamish, although frankly I’m super squeamish and I just look away when stuff happens I don’t want to see.

Oscar Isaac is in it, and he can really be quite intimidating when he’s not playing Poe Dameron.

The plot is basically a complete copy of Greg Egan’s Teranesia, but without the sound scientific basis, although that’s excusable given that it’s a visual medium.

You can also think of it as Predator But With Women, except the predator is abstract mindless forces playing minecraft with DNA.

Predator But With Women was Species (1995), where it was mashed up with the Basic Instinct-Fatal Attraction psycho bitch erotic thriller trend so the killer alien huntress was an irresistably hot but unstable woman trying to seduce a man into impregnating her, played by a former teen model who only really acted (often, naked) in this series and also a younger version by a 14-year-old Michelle Williams

s2g I’m not making any of that up

Tagged: 90s90s90s species predator

The Quiet Cruelty of 'When Harry Met Sally'

The Quiet Cruelty of 'When Harry Met Sally'

So maybe “high maintenance” did never leave. But apparently it really started with When Harry Met Sally?

This is a good piece. It’s a “looking back on previous decades’ pop culture, it wasn’t that ‘19 feminist!” piece but with actual insight to it.

Something that needs pointing out, if your two examples of an assertively classifying, questioning man in late ‘80s pop culture are Seinfeld and the Nora Ephron/Billy Crystal/Rob Reiner-crafted character of Harry Burns, is that this is a specifically New York Jewish boomer type

Born maybe still early enough to get a splash of working class Noo Yawk, sandlot baseball and all, but mostly heir to a psychoanalytic culture that valued mastery through self-knowledge, self-knowledge through probing questions

And I’m realizing, by the late ‘80s that was kind of what was left of White urban culture. Well, South Boston. Like you watch the ‘66 Adam West Batman and its picture of Gotham as continuous with small town whitebread culture, just bigger, it would have been mindboggling from the perspective of 1989. Gotham City in ‘89 was a Tim Burton nightmare realm.

Probably more and more true every day now, though, as the rich whites move back to the cities. But I’m realizing how much that’s the point, this stuff was a vision of urbanity for an increasingly tired-of-suburbia White America. “Look, life in cities isn’t tenements and mugging, it’s urbane wit”, Harry and Seinfeld said.

And they invited people back into the cities, and modeled how they should act - as post-religious, post-Freudian, postmodern post-any grand narrative college-educated Jews. Like, Friends, the huge ‘90s back-to-the-city sitcom, one of the things is the guy who gets through life on a cloud of cynical, self-deprecating “Jewish” humor is Chandler Bing, the gentile office guy, to the point that Phoebe had just been assuming he was the whole time.

Kinda was the world I expected to inherit tbh

Tagged: 90s90s90s gentrification friends

Not enough fun is made of the part of Sublime’s “What I Got” where he says “ I can play the guitar like a mother-f’n riot” and...

big-block-of-cheese-day:

Not enough fun is made of the part of Sublime’s “What I Got” where he says “ I can play the guitar like a mother-f’n riot” and then proceeds to not-too-impressively pluck out a dozen notes or so on that guitar.

Tagged: not wrong 90s90s90s

You can't call yourself a real kontextmaschine fan if you've never seen Human Traffic (1999) the British...

kontextmaschine:

You can’t call yourself a real kontextmaschine fan if you’ve never seen Human Traffic (1999) the British coming-of-disappointing-adulthood raver comedy.

anyway this post courtesy of seeing Hackers on a big screen and remembering how fucking 1997 it was for a 1995 movie, felt like a Chemical Brothers music video (ft. Tricky!) might break out at any point

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