So Zero Dark Thirty and people all over again are all  “abwububwuh, boo torture! people tortured won’t tell you the truth, they’ll tell you anything to make it stop!”

But OF COURSE you don’t take seriously the first things they say. The point of torture isn’t to convince people to confess, the purpose is to break them, and sever the link between their physical being and their established self-narrativization!

And once they’re broken, THEN you start remaking them into what you want, a category which can include “person who tells you things”.

Jeez people, do some LSD and pay attention.