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#post-consent culture (11 posts)

One interesting thing is the shifting roles of condoms in heterosexual culture Like, part (but not all) of the Sexual...

kontextmaschine:

One interesting thing is the shifting roles of condoms in heterosexual culture

Like, part (but not all) of the Sexual Revolution dynamic was The Pill and now you didn’t have to worry about it! (As in, men didn’t have to worry about contraception, which was entirely on women now)

But then AIDS, which was part-cynically leveraged to reenchant condoms (or abstinence) even among straights

Remember the Austin Powers bit where the spy frozen in the Swinging Sixties and unfrozen in the 90s laughs off the concept of condoms as something for sailors? (who patronize cheap dockside prostitutes also patronized by other sailors from disease pools all over the world)

But that seems to have faded. Since the 2000s I see girls complaining that guys never want to wear condoms “any more”, the whole “stealthing” thing treats insistence on condoms as one of those female things you pretend to humor but certainly don’t actually respect

And then there’s the girls that want it. “creampie” as a fetish, the act of just ejaculating in a vagina as like a special niche sex act, you started to see that in the mid-2000s. You saw stuff called “creampie” before that but that was specifically eating semen out of the vagina, as part of cuckoldry or other Fdom humiliation, or in MFF threesomes as a way to get everyone in on the cumshot

And so now that’s advanced to the point where impreg risk is almost a mainstream hot part of heterosexuality, which gets a bit weird. Saw a reddit post that was like “my boyfriend stopped using condoms after a few months, and he’d be dirty talking to me like he was going to knock me up, and that was really hot, and I just thought of it as a hot kink, but then I actually became pregnant

and

friend

Oh okay I looked back over that reddit post and though she never directly said it, reading between the lines she was herself on birth control, which is why she thought of barebacking with impreg dirty talk as a weightless lark. So the thing getting pregnant made her reevaluate wasn’t “wait, this is really how babby is formed?”, it was “wait, was he serious about the impreg thing and sabotaging my birth control?”, which is a lot more sympathetic and less ditzy.

So okay, that’s not a sign of “people are fetishizing insemination and impregnation so hard they forget that’s what sex is for”. But it is a sign of “people are fetishizing impregnation as a hostile, controlling act so hard they forget that some of the people vocally enthusiastic about impregnation as a hostile, controlling act actually want to impregnate women as a hostile, controlling act”

For one, that’s extremely relevant to the infohazard, which you will hear about before September

For two, there’s also themes of “being impregnated as a hostile, controlling act” floating around out there. “Forced orgasm”, don’t-let-him-pull-out, baby-trapping, “yandere”, as a way to steal him or lock him down.

That seems to have started with the by-women, for-women, power-dynamics-first world of erotic fanfiction, but professional studios are starting to introduce elements of it to the “step”-family incest brands they kicked off the post-gonzo Return of Plot with, or even create brands specifically for it.

And so if that’s becoming an equal part of our post-consent mainstream sexual imaginary, you wonder just how much kidding on the square it is.

Tagged: post-consent culture sexual media 2019

One interesting thing is the shifting roles of condoms in heterosexual culture Like, part (but not all) of the Sexual Revolution...

One interesting thing is the shifting roles of condoms in heterosexual culture

Like, part (but not all) of the Sexual Revolution dynamic was The Pill and now you didn’t have to worry about it! (As in, men didn’t have to worry about contraception, which was entirely on women now)

But then AIDS, which was part-cynically leveraged to reenchant condoms (or abstinence) even among straights

Remember the Austin Powers bit where the spy frozen in the Swinging Sixties and unfrozen in the 90s laughs off the concept of condoms as something for sailors? (who patronize cheap dockside prostitutes also patronized by other sailors from disease pools all over the world)

But that seems to have faded. Since the 2000s I see girls complaining that guys never want to wear condoms “any more”, the whole “stealthing” thing treats insistence on condoms as one of those female things you pretend to humor but certainly don’t actually respect

And then there’s the girls that want it. “creampie” as a fetish, the act of just ejaculating in a vagina as like a special niche sex act, you started to see that in the mid-2000s. You saw stuff called “creampie” before that but that was specifically eating semen out of the vagina, as part of cuckoldry or other Fdom humiliation, or in MFF threesomes as a way to get everyone in on the cumshot

And so now that’s advanced to the point where impreg risk is almost a mainstream hot part of heterosexuality, which gets a bit weird. Saw a reddit post that was like “my boyfriend stopped using condoms after a few months, and he’d be dirty talking to me like he was going to knock me up, and that was really hot, and I just thought of it as a hot kink, but then I actually became pregnant

and

friend

Tagged: post-consent culture sexual media

brb trying to figure out how to embed revolutionary artifacts in "tasteful" pornography so that brooklyn dudes at least get...

Anonymous asked: brb trying to figure out how to embed revolutionary artifacts in "tasteful" pornography so that brooklyn dudes at least get ideologized when hanging tits up on their wall

Like, you realize what I’ve been saying with my “sexual media”, “post-consent culture” stuff is that the ideological counters to egalitarianism-tho-the-sky-may-fall woke culture ARE being circulated embedded in pornography, as a widespread shadow shared culture that by nature is antifragile against prim bougie prudery

Tagged: sexual media post-consent culture

One last thing before I get to the infohazard proper: Looking back a lot of the distinctively ‘90s sexual imaginary was...

One last thing before I get to the infohazard proper:

Looking back a lot of the distinctively ‘90s sexual imaginary was basically aestheticized caricatures.

The whole ‘80s S&M thing, Mapplethorpe and Madonna, left us with a strong image of the dominatrix, in black leather/latex wasp-waisted corset and whip. (The outfits in the Matrix were intended for an audience with that figure in mind) The “teen” in cheerleader outfit and pigtails and a lollipop, the bleach-blonde bimbo with breast implants and inch-long painted nails. Even if you did that last one well - Pamela Anderson - it was still over-the-top. They didn’t try to have porn stars act anymore but gonzo hadn’t come in yet so you’d have a movie that was like, the woodsmen in firefighter gear doing it on a firetruck. (With women, I should specify.)

And that stuff was so abstracted from any real referent as to be weightless, cotton-candy fantasy.

You heard a lot about “asian fetishes” and I’m sure part of that came from the kids of the ‘70s immigrant wave coming of age but part of that was that Japanese porn was making the American market, and you had hentai with its own over-the-topness but also the live-action stuff hadn’t lost the knack of “here’s the prettiest girl you saw on the street today, undressed, in a tableau that sets up accessible fantasies”.

And it’s striking how the defining fantasy figures of our current moment seem to be running a lot closer to bare metal, and a lot more hostile.

Maybe “step-“ family members who molest you, “daddy” as a figure who when not your actual father is fetishized as an older and more powerful, controlling man grooming you for his use. Cuckold/bull, “the guy who steals your girl”. The crazy stalker girl you literally have to fight off (or fail) because she’s trying to get pregnant by you to own you.

Like, these fantasies are all based off the actual dynamics of real people who will ruin your fucking life, and that’s something.

An interesting thing is how softer, more abstracted versions now seem to use a vocabulary borrowed from the Japanese - monster girl stuff tends Fdom as loving GFE,
“stuck in wall” as a weightless rape scenario, ahegao and public use toilet stuff so over the top as to be completely removed from everyday experience.

Some of that’s the “re-enchanting heterosexuality with power dynamics” trend. Like, in an open parking lot, who outranks who, the firefighters or the party girl? That’s… not even an axis, really.

But a lot of it really seems female-led. Maybe it’s not even so much the girls are into Fsub as they are into eroticizing social power dynamics. God knows that’s the traditional charge of romance novels, from bodice-rippers to whatever the fuck Wuthering Heights was, the value went totally over my head at least at the time.

Maybe I don’t even appreciate how much of that is topping from the bottom. Like when I had been saying “so much Fsub” part of it I had noticed some crossover from ASMR and therapy culture like “reassurance” or “appreciation”. “Small dick appreciation”. Reassuring an anxious guy, a shy virgin. And from my perspective I took that as loving Fsub, but now that I think of it, “appealing to someone’s vulnerabilities, inferior social position and/or mental illness to recruit a sexual bond with them” is kinda ambiguous, isn’t it?

Tagged: post-consent culture sexual media

Men will see any subculture and be like “I can use this to have sex with teenagers”.

rendakuenthusiast:

kontextmaschine:

badgrapple:

Men will see any subculture and be like “I can use this to have sex with teenagers”.

Yeah what do you think the “spirit of rock & roll” was?

Men be groomin’

One of the major differences between men and women is that women don’t even want to fuck teenagers.

Someone has never seen Barstool’s “Grading the Newest Sex Scandal Teacher” recurring feature, recurring about 3 or 4 times a week with new reader-discovered hot teachers who got in trouble fucking their students

Tagged: sex with teenagers post-consent culture

Triggering successfully resignified as universal object of scorn, good work everybody

anosognosic:

Triggering successfully resignified as universal object of scorn, good work everybody

Tagged: not wrong 2019 post-consent culture

A big part of the generation change coming up is like The bourgeois respectability bubble that had been reinflating since the...

A big part of the generation change coming up is like

The bourgeois respectability bubble that had been reinflating since the 80s popped

Tagged: sexual media post-consent culture 2019

Like, what "guys send dick pics and that's a crime" *actually means* is "your flesh is so undesirable that you can send someone...

Anonymous asked: Like, what "guys send dick pics and that's a crime" *actually means* is "your flesh is so undesirable that you can send someone a picture of your literally most intimate parts, and it's an insult worthy of the severest punishment", but no one understands it as such? It's like the entirety of the species had a collective stroke, and now you can't explain the concept of "left side" to it anymore, and it keeps getting mad when anyone sets a glass down in front of its bum hand.

kontextmaschine:

hm

@megapope said: what in the hell

@cyprinodont said: Men are not real

Like, when I told you that if you keep your eyes on the right part of the horizon you can see post-consent culture working itself into being… Like, if you haven’t been following the Fsub sexual media stuff, have you at least noticed stupidpol?

And boy, wait until you hear about the infohazard.

Tagged: post-consent culture sexual media 2019

Like, what "guys send dick pics and that's a crime" *actually means* is "your flesh is so undesirable that you can send someone...

Anonymous asked: Like, what "guys send dick pics and that's a crime" *actually means* is "your flesh is so undesirable that you can send someone a picture of your literally most intimate parts, and it's an insult worthy of the severest punishment", but no one understands it as such? It's like the entirety of the species had a collective stroke, and now you can't explain the concept of "left side" to it anymore, and it keeps getting mad when anyone sets a glass down in front of its bum hand.

hm

Tagged: post-consent culture

Like, you all realize that consent culture already peaked, and the next thing coming, already starting to show up, is...

argumate:

kontextmaschine:

argumate:

kontextmaschine:

Like, you all realize that consent culture already peaked, and the next thing coming, already starting to show up, is “re-enchant heterosexuality with power gradients”

and you love that, don’t you.

I’m pretty conflicted about it! I set my sensibility in the part of the cycle where you were supposed to take a mate as an equal (but the subtext was that by just being willing to do this as a straight man, boy could you get a great equal), and in fact I kind of appreciated not taking the lead and hoped 90s egalitarianism would solve that!

But it didn’t, and looking back maybe some of that was holdover second-wave blank slateism! I had a friend who pushed Gone Girl the book on me and god damn if the “Cool Girl” sequence wasn’t a chilling foretaste of the next few years!

And I look back and realize that identifying as a girl in adolescence was kinda about identifying as non-dominant! And I see some of you who pursued that thread further and game recognize game! But it also recognizes diminishing returns and if you hit a dead end, may as well try something else

a world of trans lesbian sheep pining for Brie Larson in the form of a lion.

Yeah the most fucked up thing is the girls a nonagressive take really “worked” on were girls who primarily dated other girls, and now I’m looking back on my 20s like “oh wait, they picked me up drunk at last call, and she invited me back and then pushed things slowly enough I never really wanted to but at any point it would’ve been awkward to stop, and they knew what they were doing

Tagged: post-consent culture

Like, you all realize that consent culture already peaked, and the next thing coming, already starting to show up, is...

Like, you all realize that consent culture already peaked, and the next thing coming, already starting to show up, is “re-enchant heterosexuality with power gradients”

Tagged: 2019 post-consent culture