Think there's room for interesting analysis of gender based on the highly divergent development of the archetypes of "girl is attracted to guy, gets disappointed when he turns out to be gay" and "guy is attracted to girl, gets disappointed when she turns out to be a lesbian".
It’s fortunate that trans “egg” discourse has died down, because going around seeing who can be “transed” (a verb) is not really the appropriate approach.
It looks really suspicious perceived by outsiders and downright depraved if you already are opposed to or skeptical of the movement.
Which explains precisely why it’s almost exclusively used within very insular trans communities, AFAIK.
‘Eggers’ are just to transgendered people, community and discourse what, ‘political lesbians’ are to the feminist and LGBT discourse.
The parallels are pretty stark. Political lesbians adopted Marxism and applied it to biological sex and human sexuality, determined that there could be no ethical sex under patriarchy the same as there could be no ethical consumption under capitalism, so all binary sexed sexual relations were tantamount to exploitation- thus, no sex with a man could be anything but rape.
Eggers take a similar extremist view, but for gender. They deny the biological underpinnings as any social constructionist does and primary and secondary sexual characteristics to them are just aesthetics to change for the arbitrary uniform of gender. Eggers believe, much like the political lesbians did, that you could be “convinced” to become trans (in the case of political lesbians, will yourself to be gay.)
The political lesbians soon realized, no, you can’t force yourself to be gay. There are hard wired neurological mechanisms behind sexuality, gay or straight. At best you could hurt yourself until you’re better able to tolerate sex, and maybe perform that way for some sort of degredation thrill, but it’s not the same thing as actually being sexually attracted to what you’re having sex with. A lot of drug abusers experience the same thing, a lot of sex workers too. It’s not the same thing as sexual orientation when you just burn out your ability to process feelings in order to perform sex like it’s an act on stage.
And similarly with ‘egg’ discourse among transgendered people. ‘Eggs’, like political lesbians, believe transgenderedness is cultural and can be imposed on someone. That you can just adopt or choose to become that way. They treat, “queerness” like a religion or a hobby. And define that as being trans. It’s actally a very transphobic view of how it works, because it’s like adopting the idea to be trans is to be a pervert, therefore all perverts are trans and that’s normal.
I don’t trust people that unironically use expressions like, ‘an uncracked egg,’ to refer to people they suspect could be brought into their culture. Because they’re just like the people that thought, for better or worse, being gay was something you could spread or corrupt people into being through social and psychological manipulation, grooming and cultivation. They’re effectively promising to lie to someone about what gender is and how they identify with it and give them a psychological complex about gender and their own relation to it, for… a sexual thrill. And what they see as “progressivism.” They’re no different from the hypervigilant conservative parents trying to deny their child, “LGBT queerness” in cultural influences, in the hopes they’ll grow up straight and cis.
What do you make of the @kontextmaschine Covid-induced bisexuality arc?
I, a bloke with cock & balls, actually identified as a girl in adolescence in the ‘90s (being aware of the previous Renee Richards/Wendy Carlos Williams '70s Transgender Moment).
I eventually stopped, which I explained (to myself, others if asked) in terms that going through a gender transition (in like 1998) wouldn’t bring me anything like the experiences of my female classmates, or even a particularly good life at all.
If there had been anything like the environment of even the early 2010s, maybe I wouldn’t have. (When people said people transitioning were getting another chance at adolescence, I think they were underweighting the “you find an online community around your one subculture and it becomes your whole world” angle.)
So I’d say “egg cracked, it’s a cock”.
Oh, also, I wanted to be bisexual, tried “bihacking” myself, but discovered I was in fact Kinsey 0 pure heterosexual. Because I experimented with boys, and the results were “no”.
So forward to my late 30s, Covid happens, I caught it before vaccines existed, it goes “Long” in my brain and gives me a totally new personality. That is bisexual. (Which is probably the weirdest single part but well below 50% of the total weirdness)
And what that is, is “boy” has been added alongside “girl” on the list of “genders I can see value in”. Which doesn’t just matter for sexual stuff, it means I am just psyched to be a boy, in what I am pretty sure is “gender euphoria”. Earlier today I picked up a load of topsoil in my pickup truck and spread it in my yard by straining (and building!) the muscles of my shirtless, powerful male body and it was glorious in ways that have nothing to do with progression towards orgasm.
Which leads me to suspect that both the “transbian” AND fujoshi-turned-trans-man phenomena are similarly a matter of Kinsey 0s who can only see value in the opposite of their ah, assigned-at-birth gender wanting to value their selves.
The bisexuality was a pretty important breakthrough even for boy-girl stuff for just being much better able to model the mentality of a partner attracted to men, just being like “oh I’m not making her orally pleasure me, I’m letting her suck my dick” changes dynamics a lot.
Like, maybe I should have figured that better extrapolating from how I had liked eating pussy in a way gay men found disgusting and straight women at least didn’t identify with, but that misreading isn’t coming from nowhere, if you’re not personally into it and going off secondhand sense sucking dick is pretty strongly marked as denigratory, “suck my dick” isn’t a friendly offer.
have u ever had a psychotic break i had one a few days ago with 10 mg edible(first time cannabis/weed any kind) and 4-5 drinks, it lasted for a few hours at night after 3 hours of normal just being high. the entire next day I was high but only mildly to moderately pscyhotic, mostly functional. i threw and broke two glasses and apparently pulled out my dick and other shit
Nope, I’ve been kinda fucked up on salvia before in high school, but I mostly just kept forgetting I wasn’t a girl, and when the bipolar got misdiagnosed as depression and I was put on Lexapro in LA I was crazy disinhibited and going around grabbing strangers’ asses in bars (that was really valuable experience for coping with the early Covid-brain, really) , that’s really the most behaviorally out-of-it I’ve gotten.
I recall @kontextmaschine getting into it a while back with Anon over “you keep saying that Woke is gonna roll back but you don’t give examples”, and it occurs to me that the recent Target Pride thing is exactly an example of how it’s gonna go. Company brings out a Liggibettequeue-theme thing, Yay We Love Queers, and then Oh No There’s Complaints And Protests (which there’s precious little public evidence of, but, y'know, protests) and where in previous times the company would’ve kept going now they have Safety Concerns and the whole thing gets shoved to the back of the store and deleted from the website and never spoken of again.
And I just read a story about some kids putting on a play where Robin Hood is actually Maid Marian, and they had to do it in a garage because the school nixed the idea, and the interesting thing to me was that the school shut it down not after lengthy and vitriolic demonstration from angry adults threatening violence but after a couple parents phoned the school and complained. And sure, you can interpret that as “oh, the Right Wing is Ascendant and people don’t want to buck them”, but as late as 2020 I would have expected at least a little pushback from the school authorities, and from the language in the story it was less “someone has made credible threats” and more “we don’t want a bunch of people showing up and making a scene because we consider avoiding scenes more important than supporting queer stuff.”
“Somehow rebounding into a cockeyed reaffirmation of gender roles via rejecting 90s Strong Female Characters” is the kinda bullshit way these things do tend to resolve.
There's absolutely a ton of detrans kink on Tumblr, as you might perhaps expect from the horny trans people website. IME, it's most commonly by and for transmascs - probably a combined effect of "taking T makes you really horny" and the kink-power of (unintended or forced) pregnancy as an identity threat. Many people are quite explicit about it being an eroticization of things that are painful/frightening about their real lives. Search the rot13 of "snxrobl" or "snxrtvey" if you want to find it.
Yeah, the “misgender me with your dick” thing. I’m kind of unsure how to take that sometimes because recalling the old Craigslist Casual Encounters, “treat me like a girl and give me your str8 load” (alt. “breed me”) was a pretty common fantasy scenario for cis gay men too
both @triviallytrue and @the-real-numbers are straight guys but they post much like girls. they post with a bit of girlish flare. it may be their youth or it may be the influence of mathematics. anyway new type of guy I encountered when I joined this website but now one of my favorites.
Something that still dwells in my head was a bit into the personality change, after the new sexuality showed up, I got a chance to talk with some guys I knew, individually in sequence, and I was still pretty disinhibited and generally mentally straightforward, so I mentioned to them that I was bisexual now, and several took the opportunity to share tales of their sexual particularity
Which kind of came down to that though they were all heterosexual they all had different senses of what constituted “a woman” that that keyed off, and they were all aware that sometimes their senses triggered off things that were not by prevailing consensus understood to be women
last night i dreamt that jerma streamed himself hiking in this beautiful glade and went exclusively by she/her pronouns during it, then back to he/him afterward. there was a lot of hype for the she/her hiking stream and everybody loved it
Friendly reminder that some of why I call myself “bisexual” and not “pansexual” is that’s just the 90s terminology I grew up with, but part of it is I understand “pan” as being like the “I understand trans women as completely equivalent to cis women” and that’s not at all where I’m at
Back when I was just a straight man trans girls just did not register as eligible to me. I was prepared to aver that I “had a cis fetish”, also trans men didn’t do anything for me either, even making the “misgender me with your dick” pitch
(From remembering Craigslist Casual Encounters, I actually took “pretend I’m a girl and give me your load” as a pretty authentic gay male thing)
But then Covid got into my brain; that personality was destroyed and the new one’s bi. And suddenly, trans men and women are registering as eligible.
So from this I can only conclude that whatever sexual IFF was reading both as some combination of man and woman.
the most devastating part about being transmasc is that I’m not quirky anymore, oh I like memes and playing games? I’m just like every other boys now. who the hell cares. I don’t like talking about boyfriends and makeups? so does every men, idiot. cunt.
I see those posts that are like “only BOYS will understand this 😂😂🤣🤣” and I understand it and I can’t even make a snarky comeback bc I am a boy. I’m just one of them. pain suffering etc
