My fingers were a little clumsy last week, and not only did stepping down to 4 scoops/day creatine not take, 5 felt pushing it, and I’m feeling a bit of iron hunger even with 2 pills twice daily… I DO suspect that was a 9th case boosting the echoes. If so it would be the weakest boost yet so far, I had said I didn’t expect to feel them past 11 but I might not even notice 10.