{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "i'm looking up what it takes to be top 1% income and i'm surprised it seems to be only about 500k? how does that make any sense...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/698446446658273280/", "html": "<div class=\"question\"><strong>Anonymous</strong> asked: <p>i'm looking up what it takes to be top 1% income and i'm surprised it seems to be only about 500k? how does that make any sense when we're dealing with billionaires</p></div>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"https://afloweroutofstone.tumblr.com/post/698383771919089664/im-looking-up-what-it-takes-to-be-top-1-income\">afloweroutofstone</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p>Four comments:</p><ul><li>&ldquo;The top 1%&rdquo; includes far, far more than just billionaires. There&rsquo;s only a few billionaires, all of whom sit at the top of the 1%. For this reason, some economists studying inequality like to focus on the <a href=\"https://href.li/?https://www.chicagobooth.edu/review/never-mind-1-percent-lets-talk-about-001-percent\" target=\"_blank\">top 0.01%</a>; in other words, the <i>top 1% of the top 1%</i>. It was estimated in 2014 that this group had an average annual income of $7 million (even before capital gains), and in 2012 it was estimated that they had an average wealth of $371 million. Each of these numbers would be larger today.</li><li>Wealth and income are two different measurements, though they are obviously connected over an individual&rsquo;s lifetime as they save. People who have recently started high-paying jobs may have high income but low wealth; rich retired people may have low income but high wealth. The distribution of wealth is even more unequal than the distribution of income.</li><li>I&rsquo;m a believer in analyzing &ldquo;the rich&rdquo; in different strata. Billionaires are important to analyze because they are the most powerful people in the world, but smaller-scale rich people still hold an extremely disproportionate amount of power. Think of it like this: a successful orthodontist gets to help decide who your mayor is, while a corporate executive gets to help decide who your president is. </li><li>Billionaires are far more wealthy than the &ldquo;small rich,&rdquo; but there&rsquo;s so many more &ldquo;small rich&rdquo; people than billionaires that the &ldquo;small rich&rdquo; actually hold a larger portion of our national wealth. Overall, the top 1% owns 31.1% of all <a href=\"https://href.li/?https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distribute/table/#quarter:131;series:Net%20worth;demographic:networth;population:all;units:shares\" target=\"_blank\">US wealth</a>. But when you break it down further, the top 0.01% owns 12.6% of our wealth, while the remainder of the top 1% owns the other 18.5%. This is why progressive tax reformers shouldn&rsquo;t exclusively focus on billionaires, because there&rsquo;s more total wealth among all the combined <i>almost-billionaires</i>.</li></ul></blockquote><p><p>Small rich heir of a Silent Generation lawyer who&rsquo;s now an estate planner because that&rsquo;s where the lifetime clients of a guy like that are at</p><p>Coming from a farm capital that became an exurb and then &ldquo;favored quarter&rdquo; suburb in my life the &ldquo;power&rdquo; thing is kinda weird cause of how rich people live <i>where rich people live</i> now</p><p>It&rsquo;s not just the factory owner in the small town and the &ldquo;courthouse gang&rdquo; of professionals; it&rsquo;s them, and the guys who managed to assemble small portfolios of land from farmers selling out, and the owners of the big multistate chain developers, and the hundred $150k/yr Obama donors living in the development just built on part of those portfolios (who might be executives for the multi-state developer)\u2026</p></p>"}