{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "I'm kind of freaking out a little that people aren't talking more about these Biden semiconductor sanctions to China. idk if...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/698324013962887168/", "html": "<p><a href=\"https://www.tumblr.com/discoursedrome/698317532472410112/im-kind-of-freaking-out-a-little-that-people\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">discoursedrome</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https://jadagul.tumblr.com/post/698316624107814912/im-kind-of-freaking-out-a-little-that-people\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">jadagul</a>:</p><blockquote><p><a href=\"https://discoursedrome.tumblr.com/post/698308443033993216/im-kind-of-freaking-out-a-little-that-people\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">discoursedrome</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"https://eightyonekilograms.tumblr.com/post/698307509762572289/im-kind-of-freaking-out-a-little-that-people\" target=\"_blank\">eightyonekilograms</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I\u2019m kind of freaking out a little that people aren\u2019t talking more about these Biden semiconductor sanctions to China. idk if it\u2019s because there has been so much talk about sanctions, trade wars, etc. that everyone is semantically satiated on these phrases and now just tune them out?</p><p>This is actually a <i>really</i> huge action, in terms of what it does to the status quo. It\u2019s an un-take-back-able foreign policy decision with huge consequences, and it was just\u2026 done, with no public deliberation. Like it was a change on aluminum tariffs from 60 to 61 cents/ton. And then the press also reported on it that way (even the opposition press! Conservative outlets aren\u2019t talking about it either!)</p><p>Seems bad!</p></blockquote>\n<p>What I found disturbing about it was that, notwithstanding the usual little bit of mumbled patter about human rights abuses, there wasn\u2019t even a thin pretext that it was being done in the interest of the world as a whole, or of the \u201crules-based international order\u201d or liberal democracy or anything like that. The rationale is just overtly \u201cit\u2019s essential to US national interest that America suppress the technological advancement of any country that it perceives as a threat.\u201d I\u2019ll be curious to see if they try to strongarm allies into it the way they did with the Iran sanctions, or if they keep it unilateral to avoid the risk that it would damage their reputation. It\u2019s going to be a difficult environment for US allies to navigate.</p></blockquote>\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"npf_indented\" data-npf='{\"subtype\":\"indented\"}'><a href=\"https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/politics\" target=\"_blank\">#politics</a><a href=\"https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/it's%20a%20good%20thing%20for%20the%20US%20to%20build%20domestic%20fabrication%20capacity%20but%20this%20is%20kind%20of%20an%20alarming%20way%20to%20do%20it\" target=\"_blank\">#it\u2019s a good thing for the US to build domestic fabrication capacity but this is kind of an alarming way to do it</a></blockquote><p>I think you\u2019re misunderstanding the move, but in a way that <i>underestimates</i> how important it is.</p><p>This isn\u2019t industrial policy; it isn\u2019t an attempt to shore up US domestic chip fabrication industry.  It\u2019s a declaration of a cold war against China and its allies: the policy is to deny China the ability to manufacture competitive military equipment without access to US supply lines.</p><p>That\u2019s why the policy was rolled out so abruptly: it was a specific attempt to disrupt Chinese production without any chance for them to retool or adjust.  </p><p>And apparently this was pretty effective; there\u2019s <a href=\"https://twitter.com/jordanschnyc/status/1580889341265469440\" target=\"_blank\">this thread</a> describing it as an \u201cindustry-wide decapitation\u201d; for a more sober take see this interview with <a href=\"https://www.chinatalk.media/p/new-chip-export-controls-explained\" target=\"_blank\">Kevin Wolf</a>.  Also interesting is <a href=\"https://twitter.com/_mengde_/status/1581477319541391360\" target=\"_blank\">this thread</a> on which industries will be more/less affected by the ban.  It\u2019s obviously not yet clear whether this is going to <i>work</i> (that depends on how good a job each economic sphere does at promoting production and innovation over the next decades) but it seems suited to the stated purpose.  (That last thread argues that it will effectively hamstring Chinese AI research, but also AI research is militarily irrelevant; if that\u2019s true it may accomplish the immediate goal but not the medium-term goal.)</p><p>(I do think you\u2019re wrong that it\u2019s not being done \u201cin the interest of liberal democracy\u201d.  It\u2019s obviously a move to shore up the US/EU/Japan military bloc against a potential China/Russia bloc.  We\u2019re not trying to suppress technological innovation in Europe or Japan or Korea; we very actively <i>want</i> all of them to be able to produce their own defense stuff!)</p><p>The reason it\u2019s dangerous is that, well, we\u2019re declaring a cold war on China, and we don\u2019t know how they\u2019re going to react.  One of the big disincentives to them invading Taiwan has been the prospect of getting cut off from US chip technology (see <a href=\"https://twitter.com/Scholars_Stage/status/1580950956560199683\" target=\"_blank\">this thread</a> by Tanner Greer), and obviously that\u2019s not a disincentive any more.  Just like Russia cutting Europe off from gas, once we\u2019ve done it, we can\u2019t threaten to do it in the future; <a href=\"https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/491316137574281216?lang=en\" target=\"_blank\">the threat is stronger than the execution</a>.</p><p>I almost wonder if we deliberately timed the move to right before the Party Congress, so it would take them longer to formulate an official response.</p></blockquote>\n<p>I agree that this seems to be part of the rationale, but this is the part I don\u2019t approve of, because it comes off as offensive rather than defensive; it feels like it\u2019s meant as a \u201cpreemptive strike\u201d that takes imminent war for granted, which\u2026well, if that\u2019s <i>correct</i> then I suppose it\u2019s the thing to do, but if it\u2019s <i>not</i> correct then it could become a self-fulfilling prophecy. <br/></p></blockquote>\n\n\n<p>Well, I suppose the logistics/analysis/materiel for ground combat we&rsquo;re contributing in Ukraine and the naval/coastal stuff we&rsquo;d employ re: Taiwan <i>are</i> pretty distinct such that engagement in one theatre doesn&rsquo;t limit the other, I guess the limiting factors would be diplomatic capacity, media &amp; public attention, and political throughput (like, if the military-industrial complex has enough pull on enough Congressmen to get the funding and supply they want for a war, do they have it for two? What about Presidential ability to put a cause &ldquo;on the agenda&rdquo;?)</p>"}