{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "I think an underrated horror trope is \u201cinsular christian cult worshipping something that slowly reveals itself to be Very Much...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/681849733118083072/", "html": "<p><a href=\"https://millievfence.tumblr.com/post/681849169339629568/millievfence-kontextmaschine-millievfence\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">millievfence</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"/post/681849089527283712/\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">kontextmaschine</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https://millievfence.tumblr.com/post/681848581541511168/millievfence-jiskblr-millievfence\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">millievfence</a>:</p><blockquote><p><a href=\"/post/681837195856904192/\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">kontextmaschine</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https://millievfence.tumblr.com/post/681836357955534848/millievfence-hellyesbro-i-think-an-underrated\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">millievfence</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https://jiskblr.tumblr.com/post/681832155030175744/hellyesbro-i-think-an-underrated-horror-trope-is\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">jiskblr</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https://millievfence.tumblr.com/post/681762769861738496/hellyesbro-i-think-an-underrated-horror-trope-is\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">millievfence</a>:</p><blockquote><p><a href=\"https://hellyesbro.tumblr.com/post/664959324339175424/i-think-an-underrated-horror-trope-is-insular\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">hellyesbro</a>:</p><blockquote><p>\nI think an underrated horror trope is \u201cinsular christian cult worshipping something that slowly reveals itself to be Very Much Not God\u201d.\u00a0\n\n\nI think it speaks something to the bastardized nature of american christian sects like southern baptist \n\n and others. I think in a lot of ways the way colonialism pairs with christianity in the americas really makes it demonic in ways that horror makes powerful statements about. <br/></p></blockquote>\n\n\n<p>Someday I\u2019ll check the notes for this and they\u2019ll mention something besides Midnight Mass</p></blockquote>\n<p>What came to mind for <i>me </i>was the Laundry Files -\u00a0<i>The Apocalypse Codex</i>.\u00a0Specifically it makes it an outside perspective from a Brit. Not that big on the\u00a0\u2018slow\u2019 reveal, but it does play this note.</p></blockquote>\n\n\n<p>prediction: confirmed</p><p>although my impression is Laundry Files is one of those series that uses horror tropes without being horror? I\u2019m trying to define this genre better, it\u2019s something like \u201cmost people in-universe would feel scared if they saw the thing, the audience is expected to recognize the thing as objectively scary and that they would feel scared if it were real, but there\u2019s no attempt to actually make them feel visceral fear and they identify with the protagonist, who is experiencing action/adventure protag emotions not horror protag emotions\u201d<br/><br/>Some examples:</p><ul><li>Buffy was increasingly this over time, and gave up on horror completely in season 4</li><li>Indiana Jones 2 has more horror elements than 1 or 3, while still definitely being action-adventure. </li><li>Resident Evil 4, especially past the first few levels. My impression is horror video games will drift this way over time.</li><li>Serials in general will have a hard time staying horror, because of conventions about escalating stakes, increasing competence, and it just being kinda boring to watch the same people go through the same arc five times. Now that I think about it, most horror franchises that stay horror will focus on different people for each instantiation. </li><li>Santa Clarita Diet is the last stage of the process, where it\u2019s using a trope once restricted to horror (+ amount of gore prohibitive to most people) but the emotional arcs have 0 to do with horror</li></ul><p><br/></p><p>Anyways I read like 2 chapters of a Laundry File book 15 years ago so I can\u2019t say for sure it doesn\u2019t do horror. But my money\u2019s on \u201chorror-derived action/adventure\u201d</p></blockquote>\n\n\n<p>Shame this doesn\u2019t get more of a Mormon spin. Like, are you <i>sure</i> the force that sent Moroni with those tablets was Yahweh?</p><p>To get into woo-woo territory for a while, when I\u2019m riding my motorcycle in the PNW sometimes I can speak to a force I\u2019m pretty sure was the one that appeared to the Mormons but honestly suspect was an American-native trickster</p></blockquote>\n\n\n<p>Having fiction go after a particular real sect seems like way more trouble than it\u2019s worth and the NA angle just makes it more politically toxic but I want to read that book so badly.</p></blockquote>\n<p>Yeah it\u2019s weird I normally gloss divinities as arising from the mojo tribute of their <i>worshippers</i> but that one really seemed to draw on the <i>environment</i> of the dryland west \u2013 encountered it in eastern Oregon and scrub-brush California. <i>Might</i> be Coyote, dunno what other dryland trickster it would be</p></blockquote>\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m super curious what that felt like, and and what made you think it had talked to the mormons (who didn\u2019t make it that far to the northwest until later, right?)</p></blockquote>\n\n\n<p>Like it was a voice in my head, and the obvious possibility is it was just from my brain, like the part that composes other characters&rsquo; dialogue in dreams, but it kinda <i>felt</i> more autonomous. The Mormon connection was also feeling, like there was definitely some way of connecting with and evaluating it that wasn&rsquo;t sound or vision or touch.</p>"}