{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "They patched the law to make it plausible to infer car theft from possession again now (For a while if they caught a tweaker in...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/669410773926379520/", "html": "<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"https://drethelin.tumblr.com/post/669405351083442176/it-seems-related-to-how-physical-evidence-is-the\" target=\"_blank\">drethelin</a>:</p><blockquote><p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"https://reasonableapproximation.tumblr.com/post/669404604833890304/i-dont-think-thats-why-possession-is-nine-tenths\" target=\"_blank\">reasonableapproximation</a>:</p><blockquote><p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"/post/669331686823165952/\" target=\"_blank\">kontextmaschine</a>:</p><blockquote><p>They patched the law to make it plausible to infer car theft from possession again now (For a while if they caught a tweaker in a stolen car with car theft tools he&rsquo;d be like &ldquo;uhh, Bryan gave it to me&rdquo; and then prosecutors would have to prove there was not in fact another homeless junkie car thief in Portland named Bryan who stole it first. That&rsquo;s <b>why</b> possession is nine tenths of the law.)</p><p>So that&rsquo;s back down, catalytic converter thefts are up which makes sense cause that&rsquo;s a second-best way to make money from crime against a parked car, also license plates too. They say it&rsquo;s to replace the trucks they steal to do even heavier crime in, but plates stolen off a car in the driveway seem to get reported almost as fast as the car itself so not really sure what that helps</p></blockquote><p>I don&rsquo;t think that&rsquo;s why possession is nine tenths of the law.</p><p>The principle here is: if something is known stolen, it&rsquo;s pressured whoever possesses was the thief.</p><p>When I did law a-level we were told it was related to something different: it&rsquo;s legally possible to steal something you own, if you aren&rsquo;t in possession of it. (Consider a car you left with a mechanic, that you drive away without paying for the works done.)</p><p>And Wikipedia says it&rsquo;s about a third thing: whoever possesses something is assumed to be the rightful owner. <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_is_nine-tenths_of_the_law\" target=\"_blank\">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_is_nine-tenths_of_the_law</a></p><p>I don&rsquo;t super trust Wikipedia to include all the relevant detail here. But like, I expect your thing is at most a small part of what the phrase refers to.</p></blockquote><p>it seems related to how physical evidence is the most reliable and everything else is much more open to question</p></blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblelog\" href=\"https://tmblr.co/Ms2yIbOmfqPe8A-U1gavCNQ\" target=\"_blank\">@reasonableapproximation</a> then what&rsquo;s the point of a mechanics&rsquo; lein, if you can hold the car hostage under existing law? Just to establish a claim if you give it back on a promise to pay later and they welsh out?</p>"}