{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "everyone posting that\u00a0\u201cmy generation lost hobbies\u201d post is so stupid like no you fuckwits hobbies were stolen from you by a...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/669054009000214528/", "html": "

fieldsoffire100:

isaacsapphire:

dagny-hashtaggart:

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binary-bluejay:

triviallytrue:

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degenerate-perturbation:

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akinmytua2:

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degenerate-perturbation:

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darkwingsnark:

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fuckadamrapoport:

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everyone posting that\u00a0\u201cmy generation lost hobbies\u201d post is so stupid like no you fuckwits hobbies were stolen from you by a system that demands you work 8 hours a day to earn a tiny percentage of the profit you generate, leaving you too exhausted and brainwashed to enjoy exercising passion without financial incentive

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Not to mention if you DO somehow have that energy to create, people put pressure on you to monetize it. You can\u2019t draw for the sake of drawing, your family and friends think you\u2019re good enough that you need to sell it. You can\u2019t sing for the sake of singing, you have to turn that into a career or shut up. You can\u2019t write fanfiction for your own enjoyment, you\u2019re wasting time when you could be working on your OWN novel.

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These are sentiments that have been told to me over the years. That people think you are\u00a0\u2018wasting your talents\u2019 if everything you do isn\u2019t for the sake of profit. And I\u2019m here to tell you folks\u2026 that\u2019s SAD.

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Excuse me but is this post somehow implying that previous generations didn\u2019t have to work 8 hours a day

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They didn\u2019t. Farmers didn\u2019t work in the dark. Winter was creation time and storytime. Blame the industrial revolution.

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Yes they did. The amount of labor required to maintain a preindustrial household isn\u2019t limited to farming and far exceeds the amount of labor required to maintain a postindustrial one.

Very weary of hearing this repeated when it is just so obviously, trivially, false.

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\u201cfarmers didn\u2019t work 8 hours a day\u201d yes because they worked significantly more

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I\u2019m pretty sure farmers work more than 8 hours a day today! If you\u2019re going to have this take at least be an anprim because I think there\u2019s something kinda interesting there.

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Also, the equation of \u201cfarmers didn\u2019t work in the dark,\u201d even if it were true, with \u201cfarmers worked less than eight hours a day\u201d is pretty baffling. I suppose if you live in Scandinavia or northern Russia, maybe? But about half the world gets 8+ hours of daylight on the winter solstice, the shortest day of the year.

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Is \u201cgetting up while it\u2019s still dark to milk the cows\u201d not a thing everyone associates with farm life?

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The thing about posts like this is that they end up being far better pro-capitalist arguments than the intended anti- ones, because they throw into sharp relief how little the people who want to \u201cdestroy capitalism\u201d understand what might come after that, or indeed why the demographic transition was so successful at getting people off the subsistence-farming hamster-wheel in the first place.

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The 8-hour (and not more) workday was itself a product of the labor movement, with the famous slogan “8 hours for work! 8 hours for sleep! And 8 hours for what we will!” Hobbies went under “what we will”, and indeed the labor movement often served as a venue through which workers explored hobbies, sponsoring teams and clubs as part of a drive to be a complete wrap-around social institution for the working class (in competition with the church and state)

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