{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "so Chinese is full of cool short phrases (chengyu) that are typically referred to as \"idioms\" or \"proverbs\" or \"cliches\" but are...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/659123023760310272/", "html": "<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"https://argumate.tumblr.com/post/659119358442913792/so-chinese-is-full-of-cool-short-phrases-chengyu\" target=\"_blank\">argumate</a>:</p><blockquote><p>so Chinese is full of cool short phrases (chengyu) that are typically referred to as &ldquo;idioms&rdquo; or &ldquo;proverbs&rdquo; or &ldquo;cliches&rdquo; but are basically fucking <i>memes</i>, the kind of memes you get when a language is used for scholarly in-jokes for two thousand years, the kind of memes you <i>don&rsquo;t</i> get in English because no fucking scholar worth reading ever used English!</p><p>basically Chinese could make the transition from classical to vernacular while preserving a huge helping of its memes, whereas when modern vernacular English swept away Latin, Greek, and French (sorry France) much was lost, and only pretentious tossers lucky enough to get a classical education are able to partake of the full memetic payload of Western Civilisation.</p><p>(okay even Tumblr Teens have &ldquo;this is Plato&rsquo;s man&rdquo; and &ldquo;Carthage must be destroyed&rdquo; and whatever Caesar they managed to pick up from Asterix comics, but that&rsquo;s still so little!)</p></blockquote>\n<p>Japanese is like this then there&rsquo;s 1-2 layers of &ldquo;whaaat were those Chinese guys talking about, dude?&rdquo;</p><p>Plus by the time literacy gets beyond the nobility they&rsquo;ve been borrowing in from Chinese every 200 years to an atonal language so everything has like 5 secondary meanings and is a pun for everything else</p>"}