{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "Whenever I see \"Catholic philosophy\" presented it's like\nAssume Catholic doctrine as a premise\nNow apply a logical...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/189502544713/", "html": "<p>Whenever I see &ldquo;Catholic philosophy&rdquo; presented it&rsquo;s like</p><ol><li>Assume Catholic doctrine as a premise</li><li>Now apply a logical transformation or interrogate an interesting case</li><li>Quite a muddle!</li><li>But when we cleverly work through it and strip away the layers it reduces to</li><li>Catholic doctrine! Ta-<b>da!</b></li></ol><p>And like wow, you&rsquo;ve established &ldquo;Given Catholicism, then Catholicism&rdquo;.</p><p>I dunno, I shouldn&rsquo;t single it out, Rawls is the same for liberalism. &ldquo;If we understand that what we want is liberalism, then people picking what they want in a world of noooooo political preconceptions whatsoever would <i>clearly</i> pick liberalism!&rdquo;</p><p>In middle? high? school I joined an Objectivist club that an upperclassman put together for a graduation project. (I did it following a higher-grade girl I had a platonic sempai kinda crush on, which was good &lsquo;cause she was gay.) So I&rsquo;ve read the non-fiction works of Objectivism. And extensive critiques, in the 90s the culture \u2013 not <i>just</i> the Internet \u2013 seemed to take Ayn Rand as more important one way or another, kinda odd thats dipped out honestly.</p><p>Anyway the critiques were mostly &ldquo;aah, this is shit, she talks like it&rsquo;s this great logical structure but she leverages so much out from the <i>identity principle</i> because she just brings two concepts in proximity and establishes thematic or rhetorical parallels and acts like she&rsquo;s established a logical progression, it&rsquo;s farcical that she considers herself a real philosopher alongside the greats&rdquo;</p><p>And there were good points there, but in college I took a seminar on the political philosophy canon and realized that last bit wasn&rsquo;t true. It was designed to cover all the greats one a week, Plato through to Nozick, if you hadn&rsquo;t gotten to them before starting grad school. With a professor who cast the history of political philosophy as &ldquo;a failed search for a non-instrumental reason to prefer good over evil&rdquo;.</p><p>And I realized, they were doing the same thing. Not even any better, often. Being the kind of person who would join an Objectivist club in the 90s I knew the right noises to make about American liberalism as the glorious product of a Hobbes-Locke-Mill progression. But reading Hobbes, and Locke, and Mill beyond decontextualized excerpts, their concepts were embedded in broad projects that were totally incompatible with each other or American practice as I knew it, and the notion of them as a progression seemed like an after-the-fact legitimating myth.</p><p>Which wevs, that&rsquo;s what they sounded like individually, by the time I got to them I had already accepted that the only real throughline is &ldquo;a lengthy digression on why society should be entrusted to the types that the writer represents, for higher purposes that accord with their interests&rdquo;</p><p>The exception was Nietzsche who was like &ldquo;Dear bright young man in precisely your position: yes, it&rsquo;s all a ruse. People desire things, so they whip up tales of how those are the right things to do, and then do them on that basis. Instead, skip the middle step: do things on the basis of desiring them, and declare that as right.&rdquo;</p>"}