{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "So Watchmen premiered tonight and surprisingly, it\u2019s tackling white supremacist radicalization in an alternate universe where...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/188848251078/", "html": "<p><a href=\"https://brazenautomaton.tumblr.com/post/188847997404/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">brazenautomaton</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https://cookingwithroxy.tumblr.com/post/188846898616/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">cookingwithroxy</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/188846663035/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">siryouarebeingmocked</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://r4cs0.tumblr.com/post/188563211776/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">r4cs0</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://kingxanthesecond.tumblr.com/post/188563185625/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">kingxanthesecond</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://r4cs0.tumblr.com/post/188563047746/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">r4cs0</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://peccatopotpourri.tumblr.com/post/188562863897/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">peccatopotpourri</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://hellyeahteensuperheroes.tumblr.com/post/188553094733/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">hellyeahteensuperheroes</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://littlemissonewhoisall.tumblr.com/post/188527114559/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">littlemissonewhoisall</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://marsapartment.tumblr.com/post/188526551953/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">marsapartment</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://marsapartment.tumblr.com/post/188526460603/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">marsapartment</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://pocinmymedia.tumblr.com/post/188488755591/so-watchmen-premiered-tonight-and-surprisingly\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">pocinmymedia</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\" data-orig-height=\"335\" data-orig-width=\"600\"><img src=\"/media/cb1a0fbbbecf7e5986404a0b30761656ec6d3372_6e517305005e.png\" data-orig-height=\"335\" data-orig-width=\"600\" data-media-key=\"3a7cf1e4a6890baf41ce57585a2db272:633aae3fe9ed9150-23\" alt=\"image\"/></figure><p>So Watchmen premiered tonight and surprisingly, it\u2019s tackling white supremacist radicalization in an alternate universe where masked cops are battling it out with an uprising white supremacist group\u2026and whaddya know\u2013white supremacists are ganging up in the audience Tomatometer with hate-comments and brought down the audience score all the way down to fucking 51%.</p>\n<p>And they\u2019re so silly because what makes them stand out is their constant use of buzzwords like \u201cSJW\u201d,\u00a0\u201cdivisive\u201d, \u201cpropaganda\u201d, etc. One even had the nerve to say that it was\u00a0\u201ctoo political\u201d and one even said something about white hate. White supremacists really think they\u2019re smart and hiding in plain sight.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Watchmen (comic) was one of the most politically charged comic books of all time when it came out - it was a critique of America\u2019s political climate during the 70s/80s, as well as a deconstruction of the superhero genre. lmao imagine being one of these idiots who loved the comic yet are complaining that the tv series is doing the exact same thing the comic did</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>LMAO</p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\" data-orig-height=\"354\" data-orig-width=\"580\"><img src=\"/media/ee9383ecb668bb0e1d6d7d714de2d4908c549ea9_f5978a230089.png\" data-orig-height=\"354\" data-orig-width=\"580\"/></figure></blockquote>\n<p>Why are people so bad at media literacy?\u00a0</p>\n<p>It makes me want to cry.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>They aren\u2019t bad at media literacy, they jsut make bad faith arguments and spread propaganda in hope those who don\u2019t know better or actively avoid politics will believe them, it makes so-called normies easier targets for radicalization.\u00a0</p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-embed tmblr-full\" data-provider=\"youtube\" data-orig-width=\"540\" data-orig-height=\"304\" data-url=\"https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxMabpBvtXr4\"><iframe width=\"540\" height=\"304\" id=\"youtube_iframe\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/xMabpBvtXr4?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https://safe.txmblr.com&amp;wmode=opaque\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen=\"\"></iframe></figure><figure class=\"tmblr-embed tmblr-full\" data-provider=\"youtube\" data-orig-width=\"540\" data-orig-height=\"304\" data-url=\"https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DP55t6eryY3g\"><iframe width=\"540\" height=\"304\" id=\"youtube_iframe\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/P55t6eryY3g?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https://safe.txmblr.com&amp;wmode=opaque\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen=\"\"></iframe></figure><p>These people know exactly what they\u2019re doing.</p>\n<p>- Admin</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>$20 says op thinks the audience score of Dave Chappelle\u2019s Netflix special is full of \u201cwhite supremacists\u201d too. On the nose preachy tone deaf media like this is exactly how you get 4 more years of trump. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>The comic wasn\u2019t even about white supremacy for fucks sake</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I dont think they said the comic was, but the show is</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I\u2019m referring to the idiot up there that said the tv show is doing the same thing the comic did.</p>\n<p>It\u2019s not </p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>&gt;defending a #woke adaptation of a comic that had nothing to do with white supremacy</p>\n<p>Okay, that\u2019s normal for this site-</p>\n<p>&gt;using <b>Innuendo Studio</b>s, Breadtube King of Strawmanning, as a source to imply some sort of conspiracy</p>\n<p>Or maybe, just maybe, <b>people didn\u2019t like it</b>, and it has nothing to do with \u2018media literacy\u2019? People who have a different opinion from you aren\u2019t evil or stupid or part of some sort of conspiracy?</p>\n<p>Also, may I point out the hypocrisy of going\u00a0\u201cthey\u2019re spreading propaganda\u201d while you\u2019re actively defending a show because it\u2019s doing precisely that?</p>\n<p><i>&gt;And they\u2019re so silly because what makes them stand out is their constant use of buzzwords like \u201cSJW\u201d, \u201cdivisive\u201d, \u201cpropaganda\u201d, etc. One even had the nerve to say that it was \u201ctoo political\u201d and one even said something about white hate. White supremacists really think they\u2019re smart and hiding in plain sight.</i></p>\n<p>Because <b>only</b> white supremacists hate divisive propaganda and SJWs and racism against white people? That would make me and many other non-whites white supremacists, including the guy I\u2019m reblogging from.\u00a0</p>\n<p><i>&gt;Watchmen (comic) was one of the most politically charged comic books of all time when it came out - it was a critique of America\u2019s political climate during the 70s/80s, as well as a deconstruction of the superhero genre. lmao imagine being one of these idiots who loved the comic yet are complaining that the tv series is doing the exact same thing the comic did</i></p>\n<p>Last time I checked, the comic had a lot of stuff in there about the human condition and media and the nature of superheroed vigilantes. And the entire point was that it only <b>kinda </b>resembled our world, that there was a divergence point. There\u2019s a big difference between\u00a0\u201cusing politics to tell the story of this world\u201d and\u00a0\u201cusing the world to push your politics\u201d.</p>\n<p>Also, being a\u00a0\u201cdeconstruction of the superhero genre\u201d isn\u2019t the same as being political, much less commenting on real-world politics. <i>Worm</i> is political, but it deals entirely with <i>fictional</i> politics, because the world changed drastically after superheros showed up. Whenever ti does try to liken itself to real-world politics, it\u2026it often falters.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>There\u2019s plenty of reasons to hate Watchmen as a series. How about it\u2019s continuing proof that DC will never give it back to it\u2019s creator? Oh, wait, nobody cares that this is about a big corporation screwing over a writer. okay let\u2019s try another tack.</p>\n<p>How about the fact that they take one of the main character\u2019s most famous lines, edit it slightly, and put it in the mouths of the white supremacists.</p>\n<p>Gee, maybe that offends.</p>\n<p>And maybe it\u2019s also offensive because Watchmen talked about racial politics, INCLUDING a black hero fighting off the ACTUAL KKK, but that\u2019s not a story the writers want to tell.</p>\n<p>Hell, this is supposed to be in a post-Squid future for Watchmen, when humanity has united against the threat of GIANT PSYCHIC ALIEN SQUID MONSTERS.</p>\n<p>There\u2019s just so much to piss people off about this series, but obviously if you don\u2019t like it you\u2019re just a white supremacist. It\u2019s not because they\u2019re butchering the themes, that Alan Moore\u2019s being fucked and has not approved of this, it\u2019s not about how this has little regard for the source material or the tones of political tension between major powers. Nope! None of that.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>this series is not political propaganda (which is what everyone who says\u00a0\u201cthis is political\u201d means and all of you <i>know this</i>\u00a0so <i>stop pretending to be stupid</i>)</p><p>The antagonists in the first two episodes are Klansmen, but the show is not about\u00a0\u201clook how bad white people are, look how right my politics are\u201d.</p><p>This isn\u2019t a #resistance America under a stand-in for Donald Trump. Robert Redford has been President since 1992. Technology has stagnated in weird areas because liberals thought certain types of technology were scary and banned them. The police are obviously hamstrung by insane anti-gun laws that require them to call in and receive specific authorization from the central office to obtain the ability to pull their guns out of their locked holsters. They are not struggling under awful conservative government, they are struggling under awful liberal government. The police also still beat suspects for information.\u00a0</p><p>The white people from which the Klansmen come hang out in a \u201cNixonville\u201d, a trailer park where all of them are obviously poor. Black people in Tulsa, where the show takes place, have been given reparations for the Tulsa Race Riots (they call this\u00a0\u201cRedfordrations\u201d like they called it\u00a0\u201cObamacare\u201d). There is a scene where our well-off black female protagonist basically bribes a really poor white dude to fuck off of her porch. He looks at the money she hands him, looks up at her, and says\u00a0\u201cDid you get this from your Redfordrations?\u201dThe scene is not telling us to show contempt for him. The scene is showing us that the well-off person has been given more money due to her race, and the poor man has not because of his race, and this whole paradigm that was supposed to heal our social wounds is in fact making it worse.</p><p>That Nixonville? We see a scene of the police rounding up, arresting, and brutalizing <i>everyone in it</i>\u00a0for a crime that the main character knows, but cannot say, <i>none of them were involved in</i>. The show does not present this as good. It presents this as brutality.</p><p>The show isn\u2019t about racial politics. Racial politics are but one aspect of the atmosphere of extreme political tension that Watchmen was about, and\u00a0\u201cpeople are so goddamn crazy and tightly wound that the Klan is a major factor\u201d is itself only one aspect of the racial politics.</p><p>Also the show has not been shy about\u00a0\u201cHEY, GUYS, THE KLAN ARE NOT THE REAL PROBLEM HERE, THERE IS SOME REALLY SHADOWY SHIT GOING ON MANIPULATING EVERYONE.\u201d\u00a0</p><p>If you\u2019ve heard about it from people who love it because it\u2019s Woke, or who hate it because it\u2019s Woke, ignore them. They\u2019re seeing what they want to see. So far the show is very interesting, very intelligent, and a thousand times more subtle and nuanced than those people can perceive.</p></blockquote>\n\n<p>One of the major themes of the original 80s series was how superheroes had become closely aligned with a state apparatus that lost legitimacy, the people rebelled and constrained them through law, this led to social disorder, and a lot of the series is them figuring out in what idiom and at what cost to address this as unlicensed vigilantes.</p><p>&ldquo;What does it mean to be a force for order&rdquo; is ABSOLUTELY within the themes of Watchmen</p>", "thumbnail_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/media/cb1a0fbbbecf7e5986404a0b30761656ec6d3372_6e517305005e.png", "thumbnail_width": 600, "thumbnail_height": 335}