The funny thing about the US is that with their gun laws, if enough people revolted against the government their army would be...
john-paul-jonesing-for-liberty:
The funny thing about the US is that with their gun laws, if enough people revolted against the government their army would be overpowered. There’s 101 guns per 100 residents. That means that if there’s, let’s say 50 guards at some location, there would still be a chance that the regular people could take them on and win.
That’s generally the point. The US citizenry is meant to be so absurdly dangerous that it would be insane to risk pissing it off too much.
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So people actually believe that if you rallied all the gun owners into a single minded group to fight the US military… the most well trained military in the world … you would have a fart in the winds chance ? Haha I’ve got a great bridge I’d like to sell you!
@natgasman Nope, not at all. It’s more like the U.S. is a pre-made insurgency with weapons and personal scattered across all 50 states making it nearly impossible to invade or oppress as you would face resistance from all sides at all times.
The US Military could wipe the floor of American gun owners if American Gun owners all got together and fought an actual battle like during WW2. But you’re a fool if you think that’s how it would go down. Imagine instead the US military stretched beyond its limits, imagine insurgents cutting power to US bases, blowing fuel lines, and vanishing into the night. Bridges and tunnels becoming ambush sites, then the retaliation being unable to tell who is or isn’t a civilian.
An AR-15 can’t take down a tank, but it can take down the crew when they stop. An AR-15 can’t take down a drone, but it can overpower a National Guard armory and take the heavier weapons when half the people in the National Guard are on the rebelling side and the other half aren‘t prepared.
An AR-15 can’t stop a brigade of soldiers from occupying a town, but it can stop the Police and other agencies from controlling it, thus forcing the military to get involved, and the military can’t be involved everywhere at once, and that’s assuming that a large part of the military itself doesn’t defect or refuse to fire on American citizens.
Bold of you to assume that there wouldn’t be a mass revolt from the military and that most of them wouldn’t JOIN the American citizens.
The irony is, that’s what they’re supposed to do.
Exactly, that’s why I said it.
A rifle won’t stop a tank
Good thing there are a hundred other ways to knock one out
A clever and slightly crazy man could take a tank out with a log.
You mean an ewok?
Man first off, the Filipino, Vietnamese, Afghan and Iraqi irregular forces didn’t do too bad against the mighty US military, and for most of those our edge in tanks and nukes and fighter jets and submarines wasn’t that decisive.
The US military would at least be fighting close to its supply bases, though that means the entire supply chain is vulnerable to attack or infiltration.
In a revolution often the police forces stay regime-loyal and the military forces split, Of course this comes from draftee armies who often desert to secure their homes, a volunteer army concentrated in a few base towns might be different.
Also BRAC and networked area control that requires fewer manned outposts might make the “overrun a base, take the heavy weapons” tactic less useful. You might be able to take East Bumfuck Gunnery Range with ARs, but you’re not taking Bragg or Lewis-McChord. Honestly, even the Troubles-era technology of “build a big tower and look at them with your eyes” was reasonably hardened against that, it’s just too costy to do at American scale.
Honestly, CNC and printing technology might be good enough for distributed logistics heavy weapons chains. You’d bottleneck on explosive/propellant, but every rival power in the world would be trying to get munitions smuggled in.