rendakuenthusiast:

kontextmaschine:

Hey, is “grey tribe” done going on record over Ahmari-French to the extent that the idea of concepts, kinks even, as threatening to destroy society (and not just change it in a way you don’t like) to the extent of legitimating extraliberal suppression is ridiculous, porting over their existing takes on “antis” or whatnot?

‘cause for a while I’ve been expecting a cultural turn on correlation of forces grounds but it was severe enough I couldn’t possibly imagine how anyone could get to narrativizing it from where we are, and I just found an answer-shaped idea, it’s chillingly well precedented, the coalition that would be against it just spent the last decade defining themselves against each other, the premise and the motte are perfectly in line with modern goodthink, and the bailey is the most corrosive weapons-grade infohazard I’ve ever seen

Yeah I legit don’t understand what thing you are claiming here.

@ethnianmandarin said: I don’t even understand the premise

@femmenietzsche said: I don’t understand anything being said here, is this GPT2

@rictic said: I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought “did kontextmaschine let GPT2 take over his blog?”

Jesus, the Straussians were right, just phrase something awkward indirectly enough and people won’t even notice you’re saying anything. I can rephrase it, but I’d be saying the same thing.

I have for a while thought we would have to make a particular cultural shift to get out of this current morass, and it would have to happen somehow, because the forces that brought us here but off more than they could chew and are accumulating enemies and bleeding legitimacy, but I couldn’t see how anyone could get there from here, because the existing trend is leveraged out on deep- and widely-held values and understandings

I have recently noticed something, under the radar but growing, that has the potential to push this along, because it’s formatted as completely compatible with modern sources and forms of cultural legitimacy, scrambles the “"battle lines” in a way that leaves its “natural opponents” in a bad position to form a coalition, and resembles cultural trends that have broken into the mainstream before and even have effectuated similar shifts before

However, its payload has the potential to be so devastating to fundamental modern cultural values and a society built on them, so undermining of what moderns see as critical social gains made since even before the present moment that even I hesitate to give it exposure and can understand people who would consider it worth taking illiberal measures to repress

And, in fact, I think that set of people would include many who, as evidenced by how they reacted to this whole thing among conservatives, would consider themselves strongly against such repression today.