{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "hey what's a tradcath here and should I care (for some reason I autocompleted it to \"traditional Cathy\", as though Cathy was...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/184865642343/", "html": "<div class=\"question\"><strong>Anonymous</strong> asked: hey what's a tradcath here and should I care (for some reason I autocompleted it to \"traditional Cathy\", as though Cathy was jargon I knew (I don't))</div>\n<p>\u201ctraditionalist Catholic\u201d, which is another one of the new political tribes, or multi-tribe clans, we have to be aware of now</p><p>In a lot of ways they\u2019re looking for the thick identity of pre-70s American white ethnic Catholicism</p><p>Been elements of it building for a while, particularly in the federal halo around Washington DC and North Idaho, which came together around a preference for the Church before the reforms of the \u201cVatican II\u201d conference, and the old Latin Mass as a synecdoche of that</p><p>Possibly looks, and definitely claims to be the future of American Catholicism</p><p>Heir to a tradition of \u201cCatholic Social Thought\u201d as a third way between conservatism and liberalism with the Church as a mediator, developed during the European transition from feudalism and continuing into the \u201cChristian Democratic\u201d tradition into arguably George W Bush\u2019s \u201cfaith based outreach\u201d plans</p><p>Is aware of basically none of this, only interwar writing from churchmen and essayists that amounts to \u201cCatholic Social Thought is a great idea, huzzah!\u201d<br/></p><p>Disproportionately seem to be first-generation converts to Catholicism from someone looking for a \u201cserious\u201d church, or if \u201ccradle\u201d Catholics, born to a generation (in the sense of a personal family or at least the Church) that drifted as it joined the middle class mainstream (though the trads probably blame it on Vatican II and bad catechism or something)</p><p>Types vary. The left wing, which is mostly on the young side and honestly IS also the policy-oriented and female wings, hovers around the insurgent left telling them that socialism earns them good boy points from mummy but do they have to be such meanies</p><p>Of the male side, the older part is guys who are proud to identify as Dad but not Daddy; priests arguing with Jesuits on the other side of Church politics; and academic assholes who enjoy a respected idiom to tell people that what they want is wrong and they are wrong for wanting it and that\u2019s their will is of no importance and actively should be suppressed</p><p>The younger side is like\u00a0 26 year olds who enjoy that same respected idiom to say Deus Vult! and curse degenerates and blame them for not having hot exclusive Fsub wives to bear their children, and like to pose as wise 1920s pipe-smokers about it all, kinda like the ideological equivalents of those daddy doms trying to look imposing in the JC Penney suit they got for their first office job. That and young priests crowing that now they\u2019re clearing out the gay seminaries \nand influence networks there\u2019ll only be trad seminaries and influence \nnetworks<br/></p>"}