{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "some characters in the Marvel universe refer to the arrival of Thor as being a shock that causes a major change in their...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/182025367183/", "html": "<p><a href=\"https://bambamramfan.tumblr.com/post/182024791037/argumate-argumate-some-characters-in-the\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">bambamramfan</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https://argumate.tumblr.com/post/181735411479/argumate-some-characters-in-the-marvel-universe\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">argumate</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://argumate.tumblr.com/post/181732526629/some-characters-in-the-marvel-universe-refer-to\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">argumate</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>some characters in the Marvel universe refer to the arrival of Thor as being a shock that causes a major change in their planning, and you can see why they get so paranoid on learning that:</p>\n<p>\u00a0- aliens exist<br/>\u00a0- they\u2019ve known about Earth forever<br/>\u00a0- they don\u2019t find humanity interesting enough to talk to<br/>\u00a0- they are warlike and wield weapons of incredible power<br/>\u00a0- they\u2019re benignly racist at best, bent on conquest at worst<br/>\u00a0- they can appear at any time with no warning</p>\n<p>I mean, yikes.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>\u201cdo you get the feeling that SHIELD being controlled by a shadowy global council that could easily be infiltrated by hostile interests might be a\u2013\u201d<br/></p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t remember asking you a goddamn thing, now shut the hell up; the Norse gods are <i>real</i> and they\u2019re <i>here</i> and they\u2019re <i>pissed</i>\u201d<br/></p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Except the failure of the movies is that\u00a0\u201cgods exists, aliens exist, they\u2019re the same thing and one of them publicly helps us out\u201d has such *little* impact on world culture. There\u2019s never any mention of religions or public outcry.</p><p>DCU at least treats the arrival of Superman as an Event that shatters our conception of god.</p></blockquote>\n\n<p>As pulp entertainment became the real canon in the 80s-90s a lot of the breakthrough stuff was \u201cwhat if mythology was real, <i>all of it, </i>and people just had to live real lives that way\u201d, that was honestly Watchmen AND Sandman and American Gods and X-Files and Buffy and Xena and I know Marvel did <i>Marvels</i> in \u201894</p><p>Watchmen kinda went straight from \u201cDr. Manhattan wins Vietnam\u201d to \u201cthe urban crisis\u201d with Nixon holding strong</p><p>(as a way to explore culture creators\u2019 horrified dawning realization under Reagan that oh my god, This <i>Is</i> Normal, it was Carter and the Watergate Class that was the aberration)</p><p>I\u2019d like to see something that grappled with the \u201870s hard-right come-up, Mount Perelin and Pinochet, Rhodesia and the Third KKK</p><p>Like Red Skull riffing off anti-UN conspiratorial themes that he and HYDRA are the only thing holding back an unelected world government run by alien elites</p><p>Or stuff where Captain America is the friendly face of an attempt to prop up the apartheid government of Genosha while The Punisher runs wetwork death squads and no one stops them and they win and get <i>more</i> popular from it and going forward in order to move in the same spaces as them other superhero teams have to be fine with it and purge out anyone who makes a <i>thing</i> of it</p>"}