bambamramfan:

argumate:

argumate:

some characters in the Marvel universe refer to the arrival of Thor as being a shock that causes a major change in their planning, and you can see why they get so paranoid on learning that:

 - aliens exist
 - they’ve known about Earth forever
 - they don’t find humanity interesting enough to talk to
 - they are warlike and wield weapons of incredible power
 - they’re benignly racist at best, bent on conquest at worst
 - they can appear at any time with no warning

I mean, yikes.

“do you get the feeling that SHIELD being controlled by a shadowy global council that could easily be infiltrated by hostile interests might be a–”

“I don’t remember asking you a goddamn thing, now shut the hell up; the Norse gods are real and they’re here and they’re pissed”

Except the failure of the movies is that “gods exists, aliens exist, they’re the same thing and one of them publicly helps us out” has such *little* impact on world culture. There’s never any mention of religions or public outcry.

DCU at least treats the arrival of Superman as an Event that shatters our conception of god.

As pulp entertainment became the real canon in the 80s-90s a lot of the breakthrough stuff was “what if mythology was real, all of it, and people just had to live real lives that way”, that was honestly Watchmen AND Sandman and American Gods and X-Files and Buffy and Xena and I know Marvel did Marvels in ‘94

Watchmen kinda went straight from “Dr. Manhattan wins Vietnam” to “the urban crisis” with Nixon holding strong

(as a way to explore culture creators’ horrified dawning realization under Reagan that oh my god, This Is Normal, it was Carter and the Watergate Class that was the aberration)

I’d like to see something that grappled with the ‘70s hard-right come-up, Mount Perelin and Pinochet, Rhodesia and the Third KKK

Like Red Skull riffing off anti-UN conspiratorial themes that he and HYDRA are the only thing holding back an unelected world government run by alien elites

Or stuff where Captain America is the friendly face of an attempt to prop up the apartheid government of Genosha while The Punisher runs wetwork death squads and no one stops them and they win and get more popular from it and going forward in order to move in the same spaces as them other superhero teams have to be fine with it and purge out anyone who makes a thing of it