{"version": "1.0", "type": "rich", "title": "Watching Aliens, the part where they all wake up from cryo together and all the ritualized griping is absolutely masking this...", "author_name": "kontextmaschine", "author_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "provider_name": "kontextmaschine", "provider_url": "https://kontextmaschine.com", "url": "https://kontextmaschine.com/post/174909255038/", "html": "<p><a href=\"http://mailadreapta.tumblr.com/post/174909153362/watching-aliens-the-part-where-they-all-wake-up\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">mailadreapta</a>:</p><blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://argumate.tumblr.com/post/164926175949/kontextmaschine-watching-aliens-the-part-where\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">argumate</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"/post/164926021103/\" class=\"tumblr_blog\" target=\"_blank\">kontextmaschine</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Watching Aliens, the part where they all wake up from cryo together and all the ritualized griping is absolutely masking this \u2018Nam vet \u201cwe\u2019re only good for war\u201d cameraderie, the whole Soldier of Fortune vibe, I only just get that</p>\n<p>Of the franchises that reacted to Reagan, Rambo: First Blood II was \u201cwhat if we refought \u2018Nam but seriously and <i>won</i>\u201d, Aliens was \u201cwhat if we refought \u2018Nam with all our new toys and <i>still</i> lost\u201d</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>what if we treated Vietnamese people as alien horrors with whom we could never communicate and whose motivations make them utterly incompatible with civilized human existence because god knows that would help us make prudent decisions that would lead to favourable outcomes.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>This is a thing I sometimes see said seriously (and I don\u2019t think argumate is being very serious), which seems to follow from an unspoken assumption that <i>analogies are transitive and complete</i>.</p>\n<p>So if the grunts in Aliens are analogous soldiers from\u00a0\u2018Nam, then their enemies must be analogous to the Vietnamese (because analogies are complete), and every aspect of the Xenomorph is also a property of the Vietnamese (because analogies are complete).</p>\n<p>I\u2019ve never seen it done with this particular show before, so points to kontext for novelty, but I have seen it done\u00a0 in all seriousness with LotR and Orcs : POC, and in Firefly with Reavers : Indians.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>I mean, \u201czombies\u201d and analogs (Mad Max/Fallout/Borderlands raiders, etc) are 100% homomorphic to Indians, they\u2019re how we tell stories of a small civilized band setting off to tame the savages and establish civilization \u2013 the same way we used to tell constantly, in realtime \u2013 now that we don\u2019t have a contemporary setting<br/></p>"}