Anonymous asked: Sorry if being repetittive here but to expand on my earlier ask: Was Bismark and the Centre party after the wa the first big instance of Catholics and relatively conservative protestants teaming up together against effectively secular liberals/prots? I think in the Netherlands that happening late late 1800s as well Before than they seemed very antagonistic even when it seemed obvious they had more in common together than conservative prots and secular/protestant liberals/left. Sonderbund war etc